From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm1-x334.google.com (mail-wm1-x334.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::334]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id ED3133CB37 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 19:58:45 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm1-x334.google.com with SMTP id a184so5445239wma.2 for ; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:58:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=SW+K0FZIwhlKrc4XNxVuXPcwMxIpztFB3Rm9BKbsy4Q=; b=YS/RuUnDtoqY/O+/3UC9/Z5TQcC0cuHkRqwMs4F0zx6tVTantTRX32qeox9/Yuk+Zc mGAbsrm/tj8FtCaZh/Qdi6h6LZCSPMHBb0WngSAigBJ4Aq3QXugJA3npVJvNybd+ay6y sdoiLadnDvrtM0/U2akYMaEt/O/j5ka5m8XyBwF2mcYdYAYOGCf3a1e1xvEfSzFvnv/C sNus4z872rJ9PCEs2XxX6z4IsQoW2SzHwC8Jr0G3d2qejySBIGK2DNw3xdCRDkFqM2Cg 9JAJw8hATg5IUlUCfPan2ah6BxmDFYcNgxZQpR9kDl1ltZ3pxrf7F5z/hfziMCXM08bq t95Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=SW+K0FZIwhlKrc4XNxVuXPcwMxIpztFB3Rm9BKbsy4Q=; b=Qf4dLZdkkKvqjLuewora9oUh36zcaTdjjD2EuZH1fazbKGlnMt4t6p1Tl/79dlod0b +HUayzXtadf4FFsvA55ujnFwowsdlPbyEBWdF9khiTzjdhFSiaAyuQ1KTMCUdk0ZUfCT GhOkKSRFjl6bMPHyR/eHaH6XK2+UvDYiF2zFCaZopi/Ok1Mao1zEx3MuS0sBMzhQE/bL aedekEvtoudeXhCDIKqXWnhok9TLtaQPnwIxeqpEOCarK5HxMFAahx3L5zx0FvbHnFmo ocBGm+VWwGsha+nKLdq/Nv3WShizqcx0OJoxH5yd44ax4KqL3elG91AEAfvsSSKkGfRI rycg== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAWZZ9FSApGk23O6Sv29mYGx9BNSgC2kvZqadFdC0ektrXzQGRcK MAJm1VIGMpzLaOLWY3bfqqc= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqws5qKHkmeAUTxiZTaZzO5N80DQNZcmOPRh0M6cQBRkDCbMWlcaHZ0nZoioRELAuIIX8mcAWw== X-Received: by 2002:a1c:14e:: with SMTP id 75mr6742699wmb.48.1553385525191; Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:58:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.8.114] (ip-37-188-128-169.eurotel.cz. [37.188.128.169]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c10sm9579908wru.83.2019.03.23.16.58.44 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 23 Mar 2019 16:58:44 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2019 00:58:42 +0100 Cc: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Cake List , Pete Heist Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <42B7B2FB-94FC-4CA6-B75E-CADB61FE3173@gmail.com> References: <3F3F78F9-8F97-42F2-9005-F8449489BECF@gmail.com> To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Cake] Sce In cake testers wanted X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 23 Mar 2019 23:58:46 -0000 > On 24 Mar, 2019, at 12:54 am, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > There are two openwrt routers on the boat. I mean as a complete system, with a TCP that responds to the signal. As well as the compatibility cases where a TCP doesn't respond, or one = that does respond doesn't get a signal, or a mixture of aware and = ignorant flows share the queue. Can't do any of that without a working TCP. - Jonathan Morton