From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x229.google.com (mail-wm0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::229]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F1C273B2B0 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 09:46:07 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm0-x229.google.com with SMTP id f206so434907027wmf.0 for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:46:07 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=6PdHnK0MtTvhCaWZAJqrXzT2x4F39+R0Cer7zPv3Sk4=; b=AXyfdcANtmXo7b0Z/7yUSep3hY4c6Kq/Hjc9dIaCXVPqus6mIX27v77LdrxF38pzO6 t2vRtzorJ5GsTYQ8PQ3s5lS8h73uDZ4jC+C4BfzXclkgWzEDe6Et3cUadCb9sjfrq4S+ b2yDzdQBccfYVDlJfN591CIx5ESNELbXbkSNJQXM87qTNlzz3DWjsPwHQb0Yk4pkDTAp 9MJufR8sD3pMgmu4JavLoWSq9VlmNZfc6t4Pz4eusER4gvuERRE4uihs3AVqk3dCeU4E MQGH2G1J9NqsFWxql0xTQflN/ZU5MXeljMDT2rv3VMAkJuvl61qwmBlWXbWlBAnS+fdL bmaw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:content-type:mime-version:subject:from :in-reply-to:date:cc:content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references :to; bh=6PdHnK0MtTvhCaWZAJqrXzT2x4F39+R0Cer7zPv3Sk4=; b=Bk5LMr3OfAZL9uRUF0q3HF5W5ph6viL8WrwFjTTDsx2wVuojkGfJc6o7/61eDKysYv TefVpndvfJyRwnR/n3whrigZGe2gq8Uaw79BfycB4rZ50nnZk+X86Bft+B0x3dBr51B8 /ixqF1WLbpII5O+qITwU/w/oshy9mT8BhCIp6yDB4slXBkgnUhqE+D4yCF7FZg5hVqp4 mUwHe0h/bpl3Oa2OIY+L1qi4atB/757sYcImBlKNZMT4SNCpy6mgnbqa+xQ6bQLikD3i vMF4NEwoXdtphnfvh4CmudEIQ3enhIAx7J6csCwDm7o/sUQCx3nUyj6fZjGn59Mwxc6J wmxw== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQnyyoUmpp9NnOVvcw8F8R0utLmSuxX9ezK1L4x3HPXSYVIuxrgsLSnVx6Qlv8XiSbOtmPM3+pPvjX4h9HMOkvNYHOO0pw== X-Received: by 10.112.146.104 with SMTP id tb8mr1183666lbb.95.1452782763677; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:46:03 -0800 (PST) Received: from [192.168.238.201] (37-33-99-74.bb.dnainternet.fi. [37.33.99.74]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 34sm809504lfs.25.2016.01.14.06.46.02 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 14 Jan 2016 06:46:03 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.2 \(3112\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:45:59 +0200 Cc: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <452D0F47-931B-4412-AC59-C308388AA1E4@gmail.com> References: <5693E8FA.4000803@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <56941191.1010601@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> To: moeller0 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3112) Subject: Re: [Cake] triple flow isolation X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 14:46:08 -0000 > On 14 Jan, 2016, at 16:20, moeller0 wrote: >=20 > I am really curious how cake behaves in that setting... I have identified a limitation in the current triple-isolation = implementation - in fact it only works properly if the sources *and* = destinations of the flows are independent. I=E2=80=99m working on a = fix, so that it also works when *either* are different. Turns out that a brand-new, state-of-the-art algorithm has some = subtleties to it. Who would have thought. :-) - Jonathan Morton