From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from sonic313-11.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com (sonic313-11.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com [66.163.185.34]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 06CE23BA8E for ; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:13:21 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yahoo.com; s=s2048; t=1510697601; bh=FIET4SBGsuw6aziZL/hrwD9W3wCe9xk28eicvkTFJKw=; h=Date:In-Reply-To:References:Subject:To:From:From:Subject; b=YcvD21LO2C5hHYe8XFde/C7ptP00MN8SJqkUCNQjOyp78T02cCBj6OIwH2wQ6MvwhOiFin5VDHlDBUevYfwFtGHk2jEGUhXUhuIxwIEEONh2L/Lhxg75wv/ysiXPwuxKoq8JumFXEUpNxYM2fMz9yjlApX7uBpf9e1Nps0PNvXwiiKreiYrHtFHXL/W8XNI/TYvP+cqMJgAu3+bu8gcDBOpB6g8XlDvJ2dY3D4cgFSIKUe25TWe9+sM94CIPR16PVyuikx7H+KUXwILXkarosJ4t0YAiJBvrUS8zwFRiOBVsG0MRTSo7qVx8+syzKxQBkMQ1vXrpnmdj8M3I+/NKMw== X-YMail-OSG: QkBeX70VM1kiDdefkDN.KyHmSpAhO6uP6zUcLcZQf5oIIK4jJpOruXdY2ASttzc 3ziUePi7aXEI1Lbgqn7s_hqOUnHYfbzd8r_rNczKWqZDgKUWN1Rc2YVIp2RZV1lePeXXOyOiNuaV Ak9tYdERk6eO6lLfEP4HI75cyh1t_KHeBTJ_I_eebDSGH.wUPh8r0GC0ho1KK8mhNW4iaX0U9pje 7qaWU3QMpdT_lkmYEEn_HDhOyTRHrcCo.Z5FpkGo.A_jEARKu9HbOWWQKtWxWbx8ZdfAuGaIjF1e WZnNp.i34bFiVNaHjGM3nfV_c3VU3FxVBcjvu0x_rOrQu.ObzLwzsPzrIFxu5RwH9NdHI9St92ab 7VZSL6t_jOlQYZKE7Ii.1Mrm3dTMwg5mGDFpve3NfODnTgo6E37mNBHvjnQAQ9n.jXvo4kfsSbYM io7agquT94Ap3vXB7e055uh4Nap7SuZl4FEa4C5bdi3nX6h5PMd7xB0q6nY1Wln25x35efwkqSM6 TZ5sD7tx2_uOyFl2nTvr5yV.pqyopPy17vCYfwa0h8cFJfIFR.NovYWTVJl8SrmfQVAYpafoT Received: from sonic.gate.mail.ne1.yahoo.com by sonic313.consmr.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with HTTP; Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:13:21 +0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by smtp210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 14 Nov 2017 22:13:20 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 447274.28101.bm@smtp210.mail.ne1.yahoo.com X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-YMail-OSG: QkBeX70VM1kiDdefkDN.KyHmSpAhO6uP6zUcLcZQf5oIIK4 jJpOruXdY2ASttzc3ziUePi7aXEI1Lbgqn7s_hqOUnHYfbzd8r_rNczKWqZD gKUWN1Rc2YVIp2RZV1lePeXXOyOiNuaVAk9tYdERk6eO6lLfEP4HI75cyh1t _KHeBTJ_I_eebDSGH.wUPh8r0GC0ho1KK8mhNW4iaX0U9pje7qaWU3QMpdT_ lkmYEEn_HDhOyTRHrcCo.Z5FpkGo.A_jEARKu9HbOWWQKtWxWbx8ZdfAuGaI jF1eWZnNp.i34bFiVNaHjGM3nfV_c3VU3FxVBcjvu0x_rOrQu.ObzLwzsPzr IFxu5RwH9NdHI9St92ab7VZSL6t_jOlQYZKE7Ii.1Mrm3dTMwg5mGDFpve3N fODnTgo6E37mNBHvjnQAQ9n.jXvo4kfsSbYMio7agquT94Ap3vXB7e055uh4 Nap7SuZl4FEa4C5bdi3nX6h5PMd7xB0q6nY1Wln25x35efwkqSM6TZ5sD7tx 2_uOyFl2nTvr5yV.pqyopPy17vCYfwa0h8cFJfIFR.NovYWTVJl8SrmfQVAY pafoT X-Yahoo-SMTP: 6sUo5IiswBDB2TZm6JKJ6DaI.Rsz4O0- Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 17:13:16 -0500 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <87r2t08vtz.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> References: <87po92aku1.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87efph4q0y.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87vaihkgr9.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> <87r2t08vtz.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----RL26J36YKIRYH8I2PHAIEA24QLUBQP" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Cake] total download rate with many flows To: Dave Taht , George Amanakis via Cake From: "G. Amanakis" Message-ID: <46E4C9C7-3E40-4DED-8925-3491CAD1E07B@yahoo.com> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2017 22:13:22 -0000 ------RL26J36YKIRYH8I2PHAIEA24QLUBQP Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, it is=2E I am building from the cobalt branch=2E What makes you believ= e otherwise? Would you expect a different behaviour? On November 14, 2017 3:11:04 PM EST, Dave Taht wrote: >George Amanakis via Cake writes: > >> From: George Amanakis >> Subject: Re: [Cake] total download rate with many flows >> To: David Lang >> Cc: cake@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet >> Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 21:49:53 -0500 (17 hours, 20 minutes, 42 >seconds ago) >> >> Dear David, >> >> I agree=2E My point is that currently ingress mode seems to be dropping >more >> packets than necessary to keep senders from bottlenecking the >connection (when >> there is a large number of concurrent flows, >8)=2E And right now, >ingress mode is >> the only mode that achieves this in situations such as Windows >updates=2E > >Is cobalt enabled in your build? --=20 Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail=2E Please excuse my brevity=2E ------RL26J36YKIRYH8I2PHAIEA24QLUBQP Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Yes, it is=2E I am building from the cobalt branch= =2E What makes you believe otherwise? Would you expect a different behaviou= r?

On November 14, 2017 3:11:04 PM EST, D= ave Taht <dave@taht=2Enet> wrote:
George Amanakis via Cake <cake@lists=2Ebufferbloa=
t=2Enet> writes:

 From: George Amanakis <g_amanakis@yahoo=2Ecom>
 Subject: R=
e: [Cake] total download rate with many flows
 To: David Lang <davi=
d@lang=2Ehm>
 Cc: cake@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet
 Date: Mon, 1=
3 Nov 2017 21:49:53 -0500 (17 hours, 20 minutes, 42 seconds ago)

 Dear David,

 I agree=2E My point is that currently ingress mod=
e seems to be dropping more
 packets than necessary to keep senders fr=
om bottlenecking the connection (when
 there is a large number of conc=
urrent flows, >8)=2E And right now, ingress mode is
 the only mode =
that achieves this in situations such as Windows updates=2E

Is cobalt enabled in your build?
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