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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Pete Heist <pete@eventide.io>, cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Pre-print of Cake paper available
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:38:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4889B2A7-331E-4513-A985-120B21876B8E@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87d0yp7xyn.fsf@toke.dk>

Hi Toke,


> On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:30, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> 
> Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> writes:
> [...]
>>> 
>>> I don't think we can make assumptions on ISP deployments.
>> 
>> Sure we do not really need to:
>> https://forum.lede-project.org/t/transparent-cake-box/2161/4?u=moeller0
>> and
>> https://forum.lede-project.org/t/lede-as-a-dedicated-qos-bufferbloat-appliance/1861/14?u=moeller0
>> so it looks like one person already use cake in an small ISP context.
>> Now 1 is not a very convincing number, but certainly larger than
>> zero...
> 
> Well I just meant that there are many ways to deploy a shaper in an ISP
> context (centrally in the network, at the next hop from the customer,
> etc).

	Ah, sorry, I fully agree; and if ISPs are interested they should start talking; I just wanted to report the one case where cake seems to be used in an ISP-ish context.


> 
> Looking at those threads, they seem to be increasing the number of
> queues. Not sure they need to, but, well, there's nothing in principle
> that says this couldn't be configurable (it is in FQ-CoDel). It would
> need a bit of a reorg of the current code, though, so that would be a
> thing for later I guess...

	I had hoped that orangetek could be convinced to do measurements with different number of queues to answer that question, but I guess the current default of 1000 queues is decent for a typical homenet, but will simply become a bit tight with 600 concurrent households (I assume that its the peak usage that would want more queues on the "back-haul", on average 1000 might still be okay, especially with Jonathan's clever set associativity design)

Best Regards
	Sebastian


> 
> -Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-24  9:38 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-23  8:39 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-23  9:54 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-23 23:01 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-23 23:31   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24  5:44     ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24  5:58       ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24  7:15         ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24  7:56           ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-24  8:45           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24  8:57             ` Pete Heist
2018-04-25 18:44             ` David Lang
2018-04-25 20:28               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-26 19:27                 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 11:08                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-27 11:20                     ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24  8:17   ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-24  8:47     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24  8:50       ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24  9:06         ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24  9:15           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24  9:36             ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24  9:18       ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-24  9:30         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24  9:38           ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2018-04-24  9:44             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 15:08     ` John Yates
2018-04-24  8:43   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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