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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant <kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>
Cc: "cake@lists.bufferbloat.net" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] Using firewall connmarks as tin selectors
Date: Mon, 4 Mar 2019 09:39:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4D01FA8A-E732-49C8-A4E6-8EA453CFA80C@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67E78212-F68E-4BD1-946D-F1830EEA2968@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>


> On Mar 3, 2019, at 12:52 PM, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant <kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> wrote:
> 
> The very bad idea:
> 
> And it’s bad ‘cos it’s sort of incompatible with the existing fwmark implementation as described above.  So an awful lot of our shenanigans above is due to DSCP not traversing the internet particularly well.  The solution above abstracts DSCP into ’tins’ which we put into fwmarks.  Another approach would be to put the DSCP *into* the fwmark.  CAKE could (optionally) copy the FWMARK contained DSCP into the diffserv field onto the actual packets.  Voila DSCP traversal across ’tinternet with tin/bandwidth allocation in our local domain preserved.

If I understand it right, another use case for this “very bad idea” is preserving DSCP locally while traversing upstream WiFi links as besteffort, which avoids airtime efficiency problems that can occur with 802.11e (WMM). In cases where the router config can’t be changed (802.11e is mandatory after all) I’ve used IPIP tunnels for this, as it hides DSCP from the WiFi stack while preserving the values through the tunnel, but this would be easier. Neat… :)

  parent reply	other threads:[~2019-03-04  8:39 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2019-02-27 21:12 Felix Resch
2019-02-28  3:24 ` gamanakis
2019-03-03 11:52   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-03 12:22     ` John Sager
2019-03-03 16:25       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-04 11:04         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-04 11:39           ` John Sager
2019-03-04  5:37     ` Ryan Mounce
2019-03-04  6:31       ` Jonathan Morton
2019-03-04  6:37         ` Ryan Mounce
2019-03-04  7:15           ` Dave Taht
2019-03-04  8:39     ` Pete Heist [this message]
2019-03-04 11:01       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-04 11:17         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-04 11:55           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-04 12:44             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-04 15:50               ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-04 16:39                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-04 17:19                   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-04 17:36                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-04 20:58                       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-03-04 21:33                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-04 21:42                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-03-05 14:06                           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2019-02-27 14:52 Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-02-27 15:14 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-28  8:32   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-02-28  9:54     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-02-28 11:00       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2019-02-28 11:13         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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