From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x235.google.com (mail-lj1-x235.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::235]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 16DF43B29E for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 11:25:40 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x235.google.com with SMTP id l19so13004183lje.10 for ; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:25:40 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=AKKBeMbUWYUefxzBAjbmMYHwInKBITSGnA5mxUzTFFM=; b=b21xvlc/XOeFTEvJtXEmmCc4Ll4wgiVXY6wl3C7CFPyFBLBwwfWUh+gFWlBIsEOcpk pQx0/1E6JIB0v8e8gqcbkK87M1Gejct4RvGvqSW+8C45klhJSVlB98QLiE10sKoVwnqb 2fYrf1FWEmEHDl9/WLr0rIGl6iuHpl2Q3IxSXh6xIHpO7o6bsN3443jAgjlI3ma9MNN3 ypUDH3eWIyFJJcVxgW7rOwbZxXWSyZFMwp+nQSsKNk7gKIIH0wtAkQEYpA3h9qmjOtMg lfM3+3gjg4j/UGYC3lfiwAc1w6kPyKomwPHB+tuSox1PV+xoQqJaP/Y/Xya5W6HDYD4Y xKNg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=AKKBeMbUWYUefxzBAjbmMYHwInKBITSGnA5mxUzTFFM=; b=LiRYOlxfJuz3iVaLxFXad36qh5BlSl29oCtJmViSH86lYelAIpoMGJ68hyiXhavPdT gvhxtAzZZ171gllKh2qSb/CmVLXilfp2ybUAldb7td/RRZ5+mQPSzJ2dV1hxRzz7TDaw qkoC4ezILth5tEZEkfnxKqrCBlR+yxoiso+LtCw07i7nwN69kbIUqRfYBWYGMlKskd5W 9++BdPFwvVjor6kWunPNWDH7zw+I3KMuvDpUXsKFvLoxq+XACisR6m1XVHarco4aLNSK Lq8MeoB8PaiEmwCjenpYs44Ipmbxm/k8zFWfG+o9QDWkAVDFo8UZlxD0BjT0d5FVwd9o eGTQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AGi0PuYeYWP0wQGudFlBiR/OcnxrJoM20pSqHjfZRjyqN7i6Cr24yQIK 3CBW/XpxozKBSPiygPjsOITbm4hg X-Google-Smtp-Source: APiQypJ8yybFAlfIBenUIytMH3mlvD7BPS0crES3JpDn4kMIJhYkYkjN+mYInhbY6ieh/8OK76Wl3w== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9c9a:: with SMTP id x26mr9451410lji.44.1587828338956; Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-235-192-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.235.192]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h7sm6420454ljg.37.2020.04.25.08.25.36 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-ECDSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 25 Apr 2020 08:25:38 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <62228545-5DE2-4600-A9BB-52D891FF5AD4@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 18:25:33 +0300 Cc: Cake List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <4D896254-FFB2-4CEB-B596-A6D2E510243C@gmail.com> References: <62228545-5DE2-4600-A9BB-52D891FF5AD4@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Cake] Cake tin behaviour - discuss.... X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 15:25:40 -0000 > On 25 Apr, 2020, at 2:07 pm, Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant = wrote: >=20 > Download from =E2=80=98onedrive=E2=80=99 from 1 box, using 5 flows, = classified as Bulk. Little other traffic going on, sits there at circa = 70Mbit, no problem. >=20 > If I started another download on another box, say 5 flows, classified = as Best Effort, what rates would you expect the Bulk & Best effort tins = to flow at? Approximately speaking, Cake should give the Best Effort traffic = priority over Bulk, until the latter is squashed down to its tin's = capacity. So you may see 5-10Mbps of Bulk and 65-70Mbps of Best Effort, = depending on some short-term effects. This assumes that the Diffserv marking actually reaches Cake, of course. - Jonathan Morton