From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr1-x42f.google.com (mail-wr1-x42f.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::42f]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 665313B29E for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 18:43:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr1-x42f.google.com with SMTP id q10-v6so5572633wrd.4 for ; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 15:43:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=heistp.net; s=google; h=from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date:in-reply-to:cc:to :references; bh=vigz7iIkjjkNJa+VJgrCt4+qDNTf0baZ5p5SNtzcACo=; b=dEuExoSXLKfhiPUszqDOVTRAlUzzoYk0ehwgSNL0oOrCkReD6nta/IM1WfKcFNXn/1 Tg2SgZhpT57R1yjRQ2vgl9jlQ2vFDylYNnARCEKhTisnNsoieX3dfRKZ75LiyxkMCAXP B3igE4IRgYzh3UnbtbEVN2ceKnqIzbO4c9tr3olFtgOctYCHjePwnLwMQmY1dnwsBzn0 Zwb5IKG72P6m5wSTW25hx3Mgm8sdiwF1AZjFqPpiN+pByagq//3X/LIdgiwOyleElQlo tXjxRcue3gt8A+vieWukBfgOVKPGy1eEQ0AKlMVzq8/+eH3CwJPCIkFxiL61bnlPKgdZ lutA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:message-id:mime-version:subject:date :in-reply-to:cc:to:references; bh=vigz7iIkjjkNJa+VJgrCt4+qDNTf0baZ5p5SNtzcACo=; b=rv7dReuKlAfJHmC1CTGlNP0dQ9rdd0BTH08+5g5UHaZ4grQktSnNfslYCz/ijYTjjn mP5DZNaZwo70P2Y3CkSoDAlvDZvID8Yp2K2/fQksHZNu82CPK1FD8QrQyHqrYtR57rF+ cAtydZRfdYvoWl64ePAUsuOjdIYy3qI72BBhEEwIKXH69S84ZwtOtEQOR1GgHK1o6MW8 J3kF9H3xCUfyljcQ6rLKDHN6j8RrMEtJKICsT6blQBSMOJPPQwZjWlIRJfy68dT+jRWy IpTTSZ2hT9tGTO5DHgkVssgt60gK2X6xGQ90bXPzXT3hvZkhAJ2wiS4nxXUL9ygrb9VP N8nQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlEm1BkZgzeRxi5/7sb3lHGAhLPsjJ0/NNeXrdqJiBaNZHFIXI9F SCVcbWiMHcN3/Uhlixcibg1bjzBrTNo= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcmvMzawh1FliAmymqT+t5xPHREuMx9I4nNtJYyySTPnZ4hxp+UAP7nGypY6ywCgf1zoIBdZQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:c08c:: with SMTP id d12-v6mr12109435wrf.268.1532472195519; Tue, 24 Jul 2018 15:43:15 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.72.0.64] (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.193.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v130-v6sm3243423wme.13.2018.07.24.15.43.14 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Jul 2018 15:43:14 -0700 (PDT) From: Pete Heist Message-Id: <512D742C-C327-4367-A890-E29EFA9B9898@heistp.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7C67D3BE-5594-4AF9-8870-51C94F67C9C0" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) Date: Wed, 25 Jul 2018 00:43:13 +0200 In-Reply-To: Cc: Cake List To: Dave Taht References: <4C129A60-21D3-4B78-A764-DC8E2CD7E4DF@gmail.com> <6839ba220fe4399eba3620620515fc1dd801a509.camel@gmail.com> <31193A5B-88BF-4EA6-9BF6-530564B93228@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <3353F041-8C6B-4C17-ADB7-39570B05DB1E@heistp.net> <2D1DD48E-D908-4DE2-B006-E3D8D090AD4B@heistp.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Cake] inbound cake or fq_codel shaping fails on cable on netflix reno X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2018 22:43:16 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_7C67D3BE-5594-4AF9-8870-51C94F67C9C0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jul 25, 2018, at 12:29 AM, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > On Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:23 PM Pete Heist > wrote: >=20 > Also presenting the plots no-one asked for or probably needs, fast.net = vs 3km NLOS point-to-point WiFi, both without shaping = and with Cake using a queueing strategy I=E2=80=99ll document later. = Effectively for this test egress and ingress are both rate limited to = around 80-85%. >=20 > Heh. Feeling the love here... Our usual 10x+ reduction in latency. = :yawn:. :) Yep, it=E2=80=99s dramatic. Thanks again Cake. Well, if nothing else, we = might generate funding selling a textbook full of examples of "order of = magnitude"=E2=80=A6 ;) --Apple-Mail=_7C67D3BE-5594-4AF9-8870-51C94F67C9C0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On = Jul 25, 2018, at 12:29 AM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>= wrote:

On = Tue, Jul 24, 2018 at 3:23 PM Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> = wrote:
Also presenting the plots no-one asked for = or probably needs, fast.net vs 3km NLOS point-to-point WiFi, both = without shaping and with Cake using a queueing strategy I=E2=80=99ll = document later. Effectively for this test egress and ingress are both = rate limited to around 80-85%.
Heh. Feeling the love here... Our = usual 10x+ reduction in latency. :yawn:. :)
Yep, it=E2=80=99s dramatic. Thanks again Cake. = Well, if nothing else, we might generate funding selling a textbook full = of examples of "order of magnitude"=E2=80=A6 ;)

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