On 18/05/15 16:09, dpreed@reed.com wrote: > > I'm curious as to why one would need low priority class if you were > using fq_codel? Are the LEDBAT flows indistinguishable? Is there no > congestion signalling (no drops, no ECN)? The main reason I ask is > that end-to-end flows should share capacity well enough without > magical and rarely implemented things like diffserv and intserv. > > > > On Monday, May 18, 2015 8:30am, "Simon Barber" > said: > > I am likely out of date about Windows Update, but there's many other > programs that do background downloads or uploads that don't implement > LEDBAT or similar protection. The current AQM recommendation draft in > the IETF will make things worse, by not drawing attention to the fact > that implementing AQM without implementing a low priority traffic > class (such as DSCP 8 - CS1) will prevent solutions like LEDBAT from > working, or there being any alternative. Would appreciate support on > the AQM list in the importance of this. > > Simon > > Sent with AquaMail for Android > http://www.aqua-mail.com > > On May 18, 2015 4:42:43 AM "Eggert, Lars" wrote: > > On 2015-5-18, at 07:06, Simon Barber > wrote: > > Windows update will kill your Skype call. > > > Really? AFAIK Windows Update has been using a LEDBAT-like > scavenger-type congestion control algorithm for years now. > Lars > > > > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake