From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr0-x22e.google.com (mail-wr0-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5648A3B29E for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 06:26:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr0-x22e.google.com with SMTP id t20so54525294wra.1 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:26:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u/qk7U+akCvGcvOZz242fXtpQ/jUhrVRVrpAUMHH0Y0=; b=YxCneFnGOAgCw9idtPpABzPdKDHeE85jcoOsZ1NNDfIaidNEIOzADKe+Ifn9foJF5v +Bk77CyV6qifbqQaw7kWoA+Ng/Wt3YL8YySmXzLmaQFOfWvo6wDgVmT+XKEc5aLaXauv JcfFNz9J2Zip5r8kduSXCgc9NTGoL5jZTvyTl/cx5epCXyJAWQw/e6nuoTvzn1Hg8XlO I8kHvyp81y9zoQJPE9xBRcEJoMGyHPWrRclSz36wwVH+COYi3kO32vrld03eLV6pRDrP rkuXofdZniekKzTN01daU0Hm5NqQ98Cn/xXMEGxzkrYvddsYQrVGGiThlOYVcR3jWjCs 9big== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=u/qk7U+akCvGcvOZz242fXtpQ/jUhrVRVrpAUMHH0Y0=; b=BtPy3QxtjAPJfdNzr8BsID8Yt5TM/drl2DyFuRTNz8HSntiAJs8sM51HXTYL/98Hn+ N0MLa0uX9XQSiy9o+4jNMm7/HAMiuTp+fEJ0kUzG/R/sQV6MDdZAu1i9xv7HmY1ccwSI UcoWdb1ACAXLToiFxEa74gmC2LFQQsIE5JT2UBd3pU3VFcQTzs8AjBLLQISgkIDMGSUf Bek+Cf65lwmnsEzywc8LS5NFimNBZn3mgscSlvrqYVfKnOIkH1PVobGlZ+ruSMYtYgEV kfXT5d+NItMyiZPza45ru8k2szfvlAzghySeuRWTaJPn+4jfsjdPGWdZSjwiB6vzST0l fdPg== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H0xDKyY4RMaKCWG74/WT1/m9RZ0TLq69deaBM8BPedHXPnH7RElW1H4Zl3hAVTH+A== X-Received: by 10.28.150.83 with SMTP id y80mr23037468wmd.53.1491474411848; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:26:51 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (185.182.7.51.dyn.plus.net. [51.7.182.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 33sm1235207wrd.40.2017.04.06.03.26.50 for (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Apr 2017 03:26:50 -0700 (PDT) To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <2FD59D30-3102-4A3E-A38E-050E438DABF0@gmail.com> <2EAA1B56-8CAD-4964-9DD7-99D54B82D44B@gmail.com> From: Andy Furniss Message-ID: <56d591b6-23d3-d4f9-c2e0-a4453ab9a02f@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 11:26:42 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:49.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/49.0 SeaMonkey/2.46 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <2EAA1B56-8CAD-4964-9DD7-99D54B82D44B@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Subject: Re: [Cake] flow isolation for ISPs X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 10:26:53 -0000 Jonathan Morton wrote: > Also, Cake’s general philosophy of simplifying configuration means that it’s unlikely to ever support “lists” or “tables” of explicit parameters. This is a conscious design decision to enable its use by relative non-experts. Arguably, even some of the existing options could reasonably be streamlined away. Maybe something as simple as hash on nf-mark?