From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr0-x229.google.com (mail-wr0-x229.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::229]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 234803B2A4 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 16:55:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr0-x229.google.com with SMTP id q6so17611874wrd.6 for ; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:55:43 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eventide.io; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=6lt4YX4RhrjBNVeq9K6Tzb2xHwCHKAXKB+SlpEzMmdI=; b=JNNHAOxBgCT1xfMawO3si1ZaAg7w8CTPEm+r9/EkMsD2lWjos2Ack8wn2IvUOzvi4L dFQb1aGlKixHQoeiImCm8fhqsjmLGbR4f+wSRGRmxG0yRalplUHdGU4OSpptJ9MiHjbb ME1QCUaMXTLpthv9xUUxUba6ta2TV56KwQg/sa8ez3YjejmX6WJb8DH9/j33DTZF7FMq YxIBtRqny7yNeLiptUKQHwm/Mo+OYua/oA/mKwHByGwWeVTiOFs0xe9F+t+jnRG1pNYm IzPp5jv9RjTIwJ8QZYCklXZcHvCrdDaYTY4r410K6GRqGWp6G7Yn2uJ4mBLT1RDczZo9 6UcA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=6lt4YX4RhrjBNVeq9K6Tzb2xHwCHKAXKB+SlpEzMmdI=; b=GFQsIIXGk5m7VrDB+Dbas66mqKvf6jurfY+yxGEyv16QTq2RUzuT9AjuuuwbxHx3be 70j6NEFfyn/m010WPcPRbJAVwZAykdJRoOP2Uv0IwyEU+htJoDGfgzi98VD95gYqgT30 BEcs5n5sHsA+k1zYcw40AHNBH0ZuGJl52LpiIOHAVeavs/wnFz9R/2PAvcOripY7aTsq B6UuvKSU/5Ej4+PVJf5BOpXkgU+Roelgf9IaqlfF6kCl5w2JQImEKbYRAIgN9+Py1qA3 //fqNyUNTHPLm1OXkFHP4hsNBUXbtNCb4Y+/BFvLrf08aU/0H8nUGkr1ujRJ6WcpnpfD J+7g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tDpEr6sMb6ob9XfMrnwsdFi/SvvlIPShsvA72o1oPo43GF1viLZ +QJ9xPn2DspG5qIoooatRTZ9nQ== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4+iGGHlnI5Gx7UcYDerGfn18hSL+f4bGjZTnx8pR0wOq0cYX7j8f0V9Yd4tf62Y+6h7e2n83Q== X-Received: by 10.223.196.182 with SMTP id m51mr4726509wrf.126.1523912142230; Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:55:42 -0700 (PDT) Received: from tron.luk.eventide.io (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.193.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id o101sm24074092wrb.44.2018.04.16.13.55.41 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 16 Apr 2018 13:55:41 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_833698B5-DCF7-48ED-BC4C-BA2493D197AC" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Pete Heist In-Reply-To: <87efjf5gne.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 22:55:44 +0200 Cc: Dave Taht , Cake List Message-Id: <612F0368-751A-4127-B1F4-139FF5C3D315@eventide.io> References: <20180416.110000.1863692416063182988.davem@davemloft.net> <87efjf5gne.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Cake] net-next is OPEN... X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 16 Apr 2018 20:55:43 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_833698B5-DCF7-48ED-BC4C-BA2493D197AC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Apr 16, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Dave Taht writes: >=20 >> do we consider cake ready this time? >=20 > I'm not aware of anything outstanding, at least... Do I have the release cycle right that it would have to be upstreamed by = =E2=80=9Cabout 10 weeks=E2=80=9D from now and would end up in 4.18 = (https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netdev-FAQ.txt)? I remember that fairness behavior at low RTTs (< 20ms) needed to be = either improved or documented, and don=E2=80=99t see anything about that = in the man page in the tc-adv repo thus far. Summarizing the host = isolation results at = http://www.drhleny.cz/bufferbloat/cake/round2/#hostiso_cake_{rtt}_{qos-id}= = : RTT: fairness (1.0 =3D=3D perfect fairness) --- 100us: 2.22 1ms: 1.7 2ms: 1.6 3ms: 1.42 5ms: 1.31 8ms: 1.16 10ms: 1.12 20ms: 1.02 40ms: 1.017 --Apple-Mail=_833698B5-DCF7-48ED-BC4C-BA2493D197AC Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Apr 16, 2018, at 5:12 PM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = <toke@toke.dk> = wrote:

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> writes:

do we consider cake = ready this time?

I'm not aware = of anything outstanding, at least...

Do I have the release cycle right that it would have to be = upstreamed by =E2=80=9Cabout 10 weeks=E2=80=9D from now and would end up = in 4.18 (https://www.kernel.org/doc/Documentation/networking/netdev-FAQ.= txt)?

I = remember that fairness behavior at low RTTs (< 20ms) needed to be = either improved or documented, and don=E2=80=99t see anything about that = in the man page in the tc-adv repo thus far. Summarizing the host = isolation results at http://www.drhleny.cz/bufferbloat/cake/round2/#hostiso_cake_{rt= t}_{qos-id}:

RTT: fairness (1.0 =3D=3D perfect fairness)
---
100us: 2.22
1ms: = 1.7
2ms: 1.6
3ms: = 1.42
5ms: 1.31
8ms: = 1.16
10ms: 1.12
20ms: = 1.02
40ms: 1.017



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