I’m confused as to what the ‘correct' behaviour should be under the following (real life) scenario: Downstream VDSL wan link 79.5Mbit/s cake shaped to 77Mbit/s - diffserv4, so Bulk 4.8Mbit, Best effort 77Mbit, Video 38.5, Voice 19. Download from ‘onedrive’ from 1 box, using 5 flows, classified as Bulk. Little other traffic going on, sits there at circa 70Mbit, no problem. If I started another download on another box, say 5 flows, classified as Best Effort, what rates would you expect the Bulk & Best effort tins to flow at? Cheers, Kevin D-B gpg: 012C ACB2 28C6 C53E 9775 9123 B3A2 389B 9DE2 334A