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X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 25 Apr 2020 11:07:06 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_B2F2E80B-3CAF-4380-A7DB-D6BC862AB624 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I=E2=80=99m confused as to what the =E2=80=98correct' behaviour should = be under the following (real life) scenario: Downstream VDSL wan link 79.5Mbit/s cake shaped to 77Mbit/s - diffserv4, = so Bulk 4.8Mbit, Best effort 77Mbit, Video 38.5, Voice 19. Download from =E2=80=98onedrive=E2=80=99 from 1 box, using 5 flows, = classified as Bulk. Little other traffic going on, sits there at circa = 70Mbit, no problem. If I started another download on another box, say 5 flows, classified as = Best Effort, what rates would you expect the Bulk & Best effort tins to = flow at? 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