From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x244.google.com (mail-wm0-x244.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::244]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 830A33B29E for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 11:11:57 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wm0-x244.google.com with SMTP id d79so16229148wmi.2 for ; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 08:11:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent :mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EkNk6D3Wlrs9L0y1/delfCCzh7F7g0n3+K7VQdO62SU=; b=ngWgBPTGgkqBx8xgD5nnA/rnG2YO62OM/JEUba7ueju29D6R7UnfzLr6JJdiW2aeCN ZHHdSrpR7a998php1xZF8aPBbuA3i+ffsZXEqVM5kVEZ/lQEozEXOhjTj3pQ6koVzOzE ByTnrSK8Y87h6QouuNJlz2u0nGxQIX3Wbx/V6m5u3kFtsvSJJWdcrMo3Fj9TspfXEbup DwVUnmCT2dZXJ3H8glwSJ2qlCMZJQqButsqAeINTZWxS2pejgt4MyR+AZMZbt1Zz+bVX xwGvbMB2XcvDLxIlfexCcmLCQrzZaB6zjs2yd+T05XLY6hs9KUqVd6nEopv8oRUZZG9W 2pWA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:cc:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding; bh=EkNk6D3Wlrs9L0y1/delfCCzh7F7g0n3+K7VQdO62SU=; b=mtAnT9xChVf9rDwILPgQXBrQTDP2RR+56bKWdYcs5DCbzUxa4iNnnR9ZOnk3YjySeB 43xkVYF2f7551uMmPWbo0qGDgTr+sP1rkV7gzD/PrKKBOymnPKU/WbL42s09WEsDMMKK N+TjETORfdvFv8wBl8LpR9He+nmtznk+2o3ZERPPPja9QlRA0UkelF9M6ffmAalxELTz 6l7U3/YgmL8kJFKQegl88sse1TgxU8b2spGiefNMUuQUYCdMrcS3uN+c4VIV7oYdLuRi qHzXgB4xEkG79xqOUmnnLQO7F7LvHVa7t/RDZ+CD3/EYLuyZeLr72j9U//3CCbHPqCNl rvtQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/6aCMgj1KPb8gL346KTRJKigdMOy2vNbp4XoEJ7Mld1oL4NTw7Z mwBzLQfsFOTc6w== X-Received: by 10.28.206.2 with SMTP id e2mr2009030wmg.3.1493478716263; Sat, 29 Apr 2017 08:11:56 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.0.3] (185.182.7.51.dyn.plus.net. [51.7.182.185]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w126sm2545014wmb.25.2017.04.29.08.11.54 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 29 Apr 2017 08:11:55 -0700 (PDT) To: Dendari Marini , Benjamin Cronce Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <0BA3EE91-C5BC-4155-9D5D-D15D34490A1A@gmx.de> <00DDAA0B-7D99-489B-BA2D-1F20289409B3@gmx.de> <2FFBF256-2932-4FC7-AD1F-0D7CEE111809@gmx.de> <3fbfd0ee-7b41-0f83-8b44-ce7eed6a0562@gmail.com> <09DB0D8E-F63C-4126-8608-9EACDE99D2F1@gmail.com> From: Andy Furniss Message-ID: <64b0e940-84ae-e75c-0ddb-10e60452c59a@gmail.com> Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 16:11:54 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:54.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/54.0 SeaMonkey/2.51a2 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [Cake] Getting Cake to work better with Steam and similar applications X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 15:11:57 -0000 Dendari Marini wrote: >> That is strange, if you are running the ping tests from the same >> PC maybe there is something strange going on with windows. Context lost .... I was referring to 1mbit test failing for you. > I tested on both of my PCs. Also I didn't just do ping tests, but > used real application like TeamSpeak or games with in-game network > tools to analyze the issue. You can find my Ubiquiti Forums post with > some more info in one of the earlier mail I sent. OK I haven't looked yet, but have been trying to sim some things. With the ingress param shaping at 1mbit 5 tcps (cubic or bbr) really destroys latency. With the caveat that my test may be flawed, I am currently suspecting that cake cobalt head + ingress param and a low rate is buggy.