From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.22]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 652623B2A4 for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2017 14:30:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from [172.16.10.194] ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MAQMg-1cUO9L2ZRa-00BdeI for ; Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:30:33 +0100 From: Sebastian Moeller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.2 \(3259\)) Message-Id: <6618F93D-BB66-4D8D-B836-7197529474D0@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 20:30:47 +0100 To: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3259) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:qJbG0AwZ/oNcRdKeYHlD8j28ffwvkQfriEXmvMKfXurQZ7K+/lh buVWo7Uu8MuSkTYnl6XkxOSN7/m84tjJ2bywnAzqF3yf6Isyrsl+SUNLpllL3IG7GiWBlux 7P5WM3hxE50pU9IV5K48jkKof2Hc839aoBaTeMmZLZt3A2o8Gui//r2fxSAwAcYmhyZ1xSO Kojgh2TxgRWMnsWXj4S2Q== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:/qjiwe+urDc=:nlQdgR2epA4E6wQ5612cYL nQVcsjttIj+Ix7TYojfykpTnxNITNzAEZ5i1IicwctyxxdNTUFKl3iJixHatvP+4pQMqwMqNo Y/8HwpUdHl1MG/FEIKFf8Lyhz3sBooKzFnOBcdnKUuN4BwPF8wlvCnK6RepWmi8rvFiuD+gkm hepwLc2oaDWK9EuF5j4T8PvC2kz9aRfBUiSUL8uHh6RC4YJS5q9kFa13hWLCDIYyBmH6lTjd2 G6oZdLtFdr0Ovf8Oa38/nRpaGWMdKASZg8hFGesFRfwC0CqQHYE8fJ1Xe57eOSxqT71TUWuYn MMNZ5PkfSfbPvRlgTd/ttDilInzb2FoF/DxiAlCyrwE8RcuHp0RnWwAVNpKk7gFp4GTcHk5A3 m+T8ftHVgC9dfdOkVFL0mleJE4qx+2GtgPlhoM4d8y9BngqLkx78199tvcSiwxtslT34f0gsb tCS6rq/AP+2g6LWxFiEM6MKXqQfXujAsWAUESgqefFXt9w+k/PboWBTLSBz4j/xpnseq/PazL uxJdqb3IVMRVF2SmaTddwneENRGVb5uPdVKi7NZcYpFwLV8EuH6dkv2NKv6kU37SeK1DjLE+q r2WyJYeCrT2qoN12LR288j3R6hy+3i2W93zcVeNbYA70DpA/0ufTDGKeziYrFQQuqVMesyHnI FvNjr+GG6g3yr1NJo0eA6b+55zaZWioTuxm7KHQ5upA9R+8Tz3JbHn5XXsrXmSjPrCzzo5m0r C1SfAJfo0v7oafoiXtIh28cTEsQsiJtkgBtmuMyiEizT3FAKFo0Bq4cVO7fldpMG0yTIBrjIQ hBsyb0mxWlmditlRwbYOesuLl1+v/K2BkjN64R1jOkrMHbv1df0mTmROc3cWdqr7YL2kH6rlq vIYHnjnExUCz5EZxVwiDmOpSymuMxZH4wHv41OpggmnjWwtMVpcIWdRib+cH38Xs1LAP62Ok5 8BN9D8S8FBwppwgS2LTFWTi/7vqjztFE5XiGKqb4SWdJVw5vAsANcPHjYWgXhAld/3ZC3O7yk ntYNXn7Phg1fXpstCFt4mhN9eQ6tCMhHTVOjqJAPuGe7j0bHaB8ORmJymKf0azi7/w== Subject: [Cake] tc help question X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 20 Feb 2017 19:30:37 -0000 Dear friends of cake, I just noticed that =E2=80=9Ctc qdisc add root cake help=E2=80=9D gives, = besides others, gives: [ ptm | atm | noatm* ] [ overhead N | conservative | raw* = ] I believe with the new =E2=80=9Coverloaded" meaning of raw this is not = really true anymore. I would humbly like to propose a new dedicated = keyword pair to toggle the automatic kernel overhead de-accounting = method explicitly. Alternatively could anybody explain why this is the = sensible thing to do? Best Regards Sebastian=