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From: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant <kevin@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
	"Cake List" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] Testing variants of the MTU latency scaling
Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 08:11:33 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6B59CEAA-D5C0-44C6-81BD-C3F144F751C0@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AB6B6E8A-4BD1-406F-845D-5031174A86C1@gmail.com>

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> On 23 Apr 2018, at 11:50, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> Right. Pushed the patch to the cobalt branch, feel free to fix it up :)
> 
> Given that I basically had to revert 80% of it and start again, perhaps not the best policy.

Ha :-)

cobalt_should_drop(&flow->cvars, &b->cparams, now, skb,
                        b->bulk_flow_count * !!(q->rate_flags & CAKE_FLAG_INGRESS)

I like the conditional multiply (by 1) based on ingress mode, so we only pass a non zero flow count in ingress mode only.  Saves passing an additional parameter which I disliked but could see no way around.


I’m not sure that the replacement code in cobalt_should_drop itself is an equivalent of what Toke tested in his many combinations:

        bool over_target = sojourn > p->target && (
                           sojourn > p->mtu_time * bulk_flows * 2 ||
                           sojourn > p->mtu_time * 4 );

So in egress mode the first part of the OR statement will always be true (p->mtu_time * bulk_flows (0) * 2) is always 0, I’d like to think sojourn will always be bigger than 0.  So at run time it simplifies to

bool over_target = sojourn > p->target


ingress mode is more interesting since bulk_flows is now non zero.

sojourn > p->mtu_time * bulk_flows * 2 (I think in essence this is ‘permit up to 2 outstanding MTU packets(time) per flow overall) - this wasn’t tested
OR
sojourn > p->mtu_time * 4 ); (up to 4 MTU packets(time) on this flow only)   - this I believe was tested.

and this particular combination of the two wasn’t tested.   I wonder if I could politely ask Toke to run his test on this version.

I’m arguing/commenting from a position of ignorance and a double migraine yesterday, so to say I’m foggy today is an understatement!


Cheers,

Kevin D-B

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  reply	other threads:[~2018-04-24  8:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-04-22 20:46 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-22 21:09 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-22 21:31   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-23 11:23   ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-24 11:45     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 19:04       ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-24 19:22         ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-04-24 20:27           ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-04-24 21:11             ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-23  9:52 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-23 10:13   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-23 10:50     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24  8:11       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant [this message]
2018-04-24  8:14         ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24  8:29           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant

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