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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
	"Cake List" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] cake at 60gbit
Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2018 11:57:22 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <6EB2B347-7434-4DE9-8FD3-E162BC40E14D@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <73DD74AD-C2E7-4A12-AE49-C06D4486660E@gmail.com>


> On Jul 3, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 3 Jul, 2018, at 1:23 am, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>> 
>> My hunch is that this has something to do with the way mlx5 uses multiple receive queues (and thus multiple CPUs). Which is probably different from veth...
> 
> At this stage I'm pretty confident it has nothing to do with Cake, and everything to do with the Mellanox hardware and driver.  It does strike me that Linux' default handling of multiqueue hardware doesn't map very well to the qdisc interface.

That’s looking highly likely to me too. I’ll stop trying to repro this unless we come up with something new to try.

I wonder if enabling the “lockless qdisc” support (https://lwn.net/Articles/698135/) we discussed late last year would change anything. It should work either way, even with a single qdisc lock, but just speculating, at those speeds with multiple cores competing for a single qdisc lock I wonder if we’re exposing a problem in the driver or somewhere else.

  reply	other threads:[~2018-07-03  9:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 77+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <mailman.381.1530347349.3512.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2018-06-30 16:37 ` [Cake] Cake on openwrt - falling behind Georgios Amanakis
2018-06-30 17:26   ` Pete Heist
2018-06-30 18:09     ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-06-30 18:55       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-06-30 19:57         ` Pete Heist
2018-06-30 20:58           ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-06-30 21:37             ` Pete Heist
2018-06-30 22:43               ` Pete Heist
2018-06-30 23:20                 ` Pete Heist
     [not found]                   ` <CACvFP_gkdAPKSEO7j9+cMPqTa-fJYd8XFEEBD6ZzLuVvaNwsvg@mail.gmail.com>
2018-07-01  2:37                     ` [Cake] Fwd: " Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-01  7:18                       ` [Cake] " Pete Heist
2018-07-01 13:48                         ` Pete Heist
2018-07-01 14:02                           ` Dave Taht
2018-07-01 15:30                             ` Pete Heist
2018-07-01 14:38                           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-01 16:54                             ` Pete Heist
2018-07-01 19:41                               ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-02 10:19                                 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-02 11:38                                   ` Pete Heist
2018-07-02 11:59                                     ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-02 14:01                                       ` Pete Heist
2018-07-02 12:03                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 14:51                                       ` Pete Heist
2018-07-02 16:14                                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 16:59                                           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-02 17:04                                           ` Pete Heist
2018-07-02 17:12                                             ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-02 18:24                                             ` Pete Heist
2018-07-02 19:31                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 20:09                                                 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-02 20:11                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 20:46                                                     ` Pete Heist
     [not found]                                           ` <mailman.407.1530550780.3512.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2018-07-02 17:50                                             ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-02 19:33                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 19:36                                                 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-02 19:39                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 20:03                                                     ` [Cake] cake at 60gbit Dave Taht
2018-07-02 20:09                                                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 21:16                                                         ` Pete Heist
2018-07-02 21:35                                                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 22:07                                                             ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-02 22:12                                                               ` Dave Taht
2018-07-02 23:48                                                                 ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-02 22:23                                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-03  7:35                                                                 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-03  9:18                                                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-03  9:57                                                                   ` Pete Heist [this message]
2018-07-03 10:27                                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-03 10:41                                                                     ` Pete Heist
2018-07-05 22:31                                                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-05 23:48                                                                       ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-07-06  1:21                                                                         ` Dave Taht
2018-07-06  2:55                                                                           ` George Amanakis
2018-07-06  3:06                                                                             ` George Amanakis
2018-07-06  9:22                                                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-06  9:21                                                                           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-06  8:55                                                                       ` Pete Heist
2018-07-06  9:29                                                                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-06 10:00                                                                           ` Pete Heist
2018-07-06 10:46                                                                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-06 11:33                                                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-06 11:43                                                                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-07-06 11:48                                                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-06 11:58                                                                                 ` Pete Heist
2018-07-06 12:04                                                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 18:39                                           ` [Cake] Cake on openwrt - falling behind Dave Taht
2018-07-02 19:11                                             ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-07-02 19:23                                               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 19:27                                                 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-02 19:38                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 20:05                                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-07-02 19:31                                             ` Pete Heist
     [not found]                               ` <mailman.397.1530474091.3512.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2018-07-01 23:55                                 ` Dave Taht
2018-07-02  0:05                                   ` Dave Taht
     [not found]                           ` <mailman.392.1530455913.3512.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2018-07-01 15:17                             ` Jonathan Morton
     [not found]       ` <mailman.384.1530384918.3512.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2018-07-01  9:46         ` Magnus Olsson
2018-07-01 12:34           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant

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