From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf0-x242.google.com (mail-lf0-x242.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c07::242]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DA7E53B29E for ; Thu, 6 Apr 2017 05:11:49 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf0-x242.google.com with SMTP id n78so3112202lfi.3 for ; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 02:11:49 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=w+SSNcd2KvCRBtC2yC81DfE+Io0OxT72Y8l5pWvJz+w=; b=Wcec6HYBu1+flJ441nZwgBM0PKxHb4qwu4Nn942wiK6DXcoR7M332zKDux7RSD/AEb Gp4bNsBXrkGRSXaD6iFwVQj7+nBM/nugSn3NMWxMRAHsTOBZ6OUnZwsASny6HO8s0Kwu aGa1PCQ+5+n4muhHOOIwPO5A2zCUWrBwBsGpR/GdKjn5KFlC6Pr3CViflSsHw/LNzmPM I1fSqYGjSmBYwgAnkrFcP0ZVz6rWWyZ/VGQkX06aIzpNjZCkFGi3OWrUS68kXKYOeq+C 6sVFIrhctMldztQoYd9iSlvXVqG79hWCPNSaUE4PjeCcFhLyXrwwtAbzXCcPNKOXVw4x EnFg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=w+SSNcd2KvCRBtC2yC81DfE+Io0OxT72Y8l5pWvJz+w=; b=slTufiRm6kS6VDzN8c93p62NBLR5u5LAfv+GIon4kDntILgyF8bhitiPorQyu/UVn8 t/a0pqaiTY48jb1a+q6fd8dswKYctFSXYcBYLFdk/+oN0PFItiB1+BoZOXWQONJvg1jV srA18mozEehJgqjI3SIcHzrF13xUX4E6TELWACF4GQ3usDJhbiJJMiFC7N0lZl5m7Ow7 txED81f7hfuvtKdTbx8DE62aNJM2hRqsXzGw+iLePf/pXC1EBySi3idnm+zoPk2ETe88 DE1XsGstb/QOkjGE84pHU6TQbu06gmVpYck8CiUv3CDaLiBGmU7qwOm0en7hWPFccns2 ywRQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AFeK/H0wc1uDcGYKKdr37OcXHGynkR3dv2FMgkMIck9C/eWssuEnlkzaQO5I76LzqHofdw== X-Received: by 10.25.0.148 with SMTP id 142mr10960971lfa.156.1491469908659; Thu, 06 Apr 2017 02:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.100.14] (37-219-158-10.nat.bb.dnainternet.fi. [37.219.158.10]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id h7sm216361lji.10.2017.04.06.02.11.47 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 06 Apr 2017 02:11:48 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <2FD59D30-3102-4A3E-A38E-050E438DABF0@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2017 12:11:45 +0300 Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <6F118C46-16DB-48AC-A90D-7E6D44B6D069@gmail.com> References: <2FD59D30-3102-4A3E-A38E-050E438DABF0@gmail.com> To: Pete Heist X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Cake] flow isolation for ISPs X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 06 Apr 2017 09:11:50 -0000 > On 6 Apr, 2017, at 11:27, Pete Heist wrote: >=20 > There is a table of member ID to a list of MAC addresses for the = member, so if there could somehow be fairness based on that table and by = MAC address, that could solve it, but I don=E2=80=99t see how it could = be implemented. One option would be to use HTB with FLOWER filters to sort out the = subscribers into classes, and use Cake or fq_codel as a child qdisc per = class. Remember that Cake can be used in =E2=80=9Cunlimited=E2=80=9D = mode to rely on an external shaping source. - Jonathan Morton