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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 6/7] sch_cake: Add overhead compensation support to the rate shaper
Date: Wed, 2 May 2018 17:25:28 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <7A6AB93A-565B-4251-B0A8-90631A9A152B@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <152527388834.14936.16168261814447709834.stgit@alrua-kau>



> On May 2, 2018, at 17:11, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> 
> +		/* The last segment may be shorter; we ignore this, which means
> +		 * that we will over-estimate the size of the whole GSO segment
> +		 * by the difference in size. This is conservative, so we live
> +		 * with that to avoid the complexity of dealing with it.
> +		 */
> +		len = shinfo->gso_size + hdr_len;
> +	}


Hi Toke,

so I am on the fence with this one, as the extreme case is having a super packet consisting out of 1 full-MTU packet plus a tiny leftover in that case we pay a 50% bandwidth sacrifice which seems a bit high. Nowm I have no real feling how likely this full MTU plus 64 byte packet issue is in real life, but in the past I often saw maximum packetsizes of around 3K bytes on my router indicating that having a sup packet consisting just out of two segments might not be that rare. So is there an easy way for me to measure the probability of seeing that issue?
I am all for sacrificing some bandwidth for better latency under load, but few users will be happy with a 50% loss of bandwidth...

Best Regards
	Sebastian

  reply	other threads:[~2018-05-02 15:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-05-02 15:10 [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 0/7] sched: Add Common Applications Kept Enhanced (cake) qdisc Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 15:11 ` [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 1/7] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-03  5:05   ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-03  5:05   ` [Cake] [PATCH] sched: fix semicolon.cocci warnings kbuild test robot
2018-05-03 15:24   ` [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 1/7] sched: Add Common Applications Kept Enhanced (cake) qdisc David Miller
2018-05-03 15:28     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 15:11 ` [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 2/7] sch_cake: Add ingress mode Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 15:11 ` [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 3/7] sch_cake: Add optional ACK filter Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-03  8:26   ` kbuild test robot
2018-05-03 12:40     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 15:11 ` [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 4/7] sch_cake: Add NAT awareness to packet classifier Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 15:11 ` [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 5/7] sch_cake: Add DiffServ handling Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 15:11 ` [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 6/7] sch_cake: Add overhead compensation support to the rate shaper Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 15:25   ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2018-05-02 15:30     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 16:08       ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-05-02 16:15         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-05-02 15:11 ` [Cake] [PATCH net-next v7 7/7] sch_cake: Conditionally split GSO segments Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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