From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0346C3B2A4 for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 15:41:18 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1671914477; bh=BzmYXrqRRnzNj26wsTZNYvf3JXvjWoUcZglHY/Q1/Ms=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:Subject:Date:References:To:In-Reply-To; b=AxpvzsBwpe5/Ly0kCGR99rQ2yKuaBdK0EjprKuzjWFrUCYa5OWRgaSj7aViduu5oK 9zAmqmMBycvL1QyEihkeQ2PkpIImzYnQ29+Nfo08JvSKQM4sLKmfGzNiUuN3XHAcZJ /y7C6uFDCAuSQCoovVWP7WkY68Qp6BlMALrAKCT9zlCwmiypa+trM1jX99zrHsmAkG IihG2GoyZJp0cXvdGbzpFPikhTDYKCM/HnLjVszwAhrrDNWrJT6dgux+ZoJUYB5HHY oJsfeALJp5x1SHtFAwOnOxao2q2jS9cgHov9/m2XGq1Vl82F8xqBrKzBNuhQM8lCEr qkmXxqvQ6/3kw== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from smtpclient.apple ([95.112.176.36]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx105 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M3DJl-1pA1Cq1zjx-003hVp for ; Sat, 24 Dec 2022 21:41:17 +0100 From: Sebastian Moeller Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.1\)) Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 21:41:16 +0100 References: <0b8ef844-5c23-d8d9-0207-38fc2a0105c6@newmedia-net.de> To: Cake List In-Reply-To: <0b8ef844-5c23-d8d9-0207-38fc2a0105c6@newmedia-net.de> Message-Id: <7F2C1772-0C8F-47F5-AC9F-B5B4EEA583A6@gmx.de> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.1) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:e8CHeSEk7dY9qMrvE3CUw0Xaj3OlWE01T8V+N1Z29p2cyUCULw/ oOJoipiUAJNPrC9EEwcW5tQjedxbn/2uGDIz5g821By3l9KIb0aK07RnN2OSVhIyId+ycV+ i40vWnAiW3GjBMx/Fk79I8MhrpacayjWnGSiZ6aIVM9pqPlTvTck3assF5M0qPGmpJpanyk BN2I2TcMMeaGDpYULcQLQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:vSFiI1XzcSc=;gS2dXLRelpS+W7E4G7B2XhIqCFJ PdNOddQ0A28/6ZaqvKn/S22z0PnUOW4SFt2q3CVrfhNB6Uud8iEkyW1noqY6irWdjqXdK/i3/ OBJXUmBDk/SipW3RtFtKjuyv5SDrwu8C1pNjo+GfadPPRqZpsFCpVTPZEPCIpjb1UbF8epR57 uTL5x9zyKqpLi4UIENO9EWvj/IsjBgSFDmB8+mi7O8In7wmOwKpVMilaJwv66tghv4OKBeoRt nXP9D7Va9UlMTyOzFwYlPFk08nTWfA8G9Fmwr+X53ZX19dn8gAJtC2hsmM2SoWRQf0RrXAY5V zjHxjn3KpMsEcBeLbviV6U08VfTA0oETpVXXiNHTEWRWSbJsdjKbAowI8/YY9wEVgtFyB1y8V EaUeh2muU+KirmSsjtkPigewnp9Hpr9hbiUpckvGb990tfoMH/Ex5ek+tzemJJ/wSLpMw5Ev4 8h+WwLcEtPDd9xKrPWsF8EOafDNnel6jO+APGlBoqxBbyvU6GdSYeMc0cUpktYUVD91eXW0ZS vxP2bYy/+MPdWNB0KbUHzufpy0JVuvDmlgEs9TNzd+s6Tjbs6EDoSa2TFPaOLD2Vwxj9gKDft 2A1OX+yX0WaiigGHwHPbCM/mt/lRjPPtHOngOhP1ITcKApb2seqwUmwP45NOcCBSZekjUW/j4 /LVPCX33M6revvitwJkOnKJl7uKV9j6N1M7LSyQBxea5B/jDI0b9eno5xp0qdGNfoXM7a+jmY l/qB0pz4wGL6Oo5k1wnjwtr+QtgXADwE9Yi7V7Odg4t250wwFiWjm4+eO5Q+kjZi3Wn2xIAHM 5kl7CrczKilhPzKIFEPOm4iNKN19i07Jzow+ZhL/Yy489Fdsqb+A05m7PNjn63g0tzgP7/Q2G qQGI1AxrU/tJlM49vR4hoqpFsvx8vHkjtDqmmLmTvNfRQipmnDA1WWMLoxxNQP2GhLmonm8D3 GZUCc79QqVGNM6M9v9Zvl7ZjU/M= Subject: Re: [Cake] AVM seems to be shipping cake X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2022 20:41:19 -0000 Totally unrelated, I (actually my kids) stumbled over a new weir game = show on netflix called "is it cake?". Very light on networking and heavy on cream, butter and sugar, I guess = to be expected for a cooking-adjacent show ;) Happy end of the year.... Sebastian > On Dec 24, 2022, at 19:52, Sebastian Gottschall via Cake = wrote: >=20 > there are just 195 >=20 > Am 20.12.2022 um 17:12 schrieb Dave Taht via Cake: >> Yay! 260 more countries to go! >>=20 >> On Tue, Dec 20, 2022 at 7:46 AM Sebastian Moeller via Cake >> wrote: >>> Dear all, >>>=20 >>> just had a look in a recent firmware archive for AVM's fritzbox = 7530, and 'strings dsld' (dsld is AVM's single blob "magic binary dsl = deamon" that encapsulates a lot of their value proposition) reveals that = they likely are using cake*: >>>=20 >>> qdisc add dev %s handle 10:0 root cake bandwidth %ukbit besteffort = %s %s dual-dsthost ingress >>> qdisc add dev %s handle 10:0 root cake bandwidth %ukbit besteffort = overhead %d dual-dsthost ingress >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> I failed to find the matching dual-srchost entry so they might use = something else for egress. I have no insight whether/how this can be = actiated (not using a fb7530 myself), but at least this is making it out = to the unwashed masses in Germany... (The FB7530 is the "value" box for = the most recent DSL variant deployed in Germany, profile 35b vectoring, = sold under the moniker "super-vectoring"). >>>=20 >>>=20 >>> *) makes sense some months ago they posted a video promising = enhances fairness for internal users, I was puzzled at the time how they = would implement that, but it seems that they did not re-invent the wheel = here but went for >>>=20 >>> Regards >>> Sebastian >>>=20 >>> P.S.: To my joy they also seem to diligently set overhead, for their = HTB/TBF instances using tc-stab... >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Cake mailing list >>> Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net >>> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake >>=20 >>=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake