Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant writes: > At the moment cake is effectively saying that it expects stuff in tin > 4 to take 4 times as long to send/its packets are 4 times as big > depending which warped view you care to take :-) Yup, exactly. However that can be true because tin 4 is shaped to 1/4 the rate; so for 1 packet, that is actually true. However, it's not really a shaping, it's a threshold. Or is it? As I said, I need to go read the code :P -Toke