From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [52.28.52.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher AECDH-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 97EC03B2A3 for ; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 06:32:37 -0500 (EST) Received: from mail.toke.dk (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1]) by mail.toke.dk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 307D87AF97; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:32:32 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1487763152; bh=n6Fy6KbzNzLEZc5tWviqhUOoCCkNorMpMnaIEQViTdY=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=I2g2qx0W6WJh52jVG8L4RhKT/7QBsvVpRJVYuwZO6Eit4+hHZxyX3CObtqbneLHhL /1F1yWRbIiqZ5Yy7ME7kStZEYErNBwUjZrN1W71Nqu06Z3rSZl8Ei/r3wRIThRqmY+ L+2JL9ZccNqpzRTIUWXGmb1cou5tH4sMjzTZNMG0yYj96BO4/cTr5sUd2ValP70ApJ lp+GAdkPLVGFszd7SNI0JUR0UUJaKYvVCtWQ12cbxVw04ucTEBwoxUGQqQ+MQElVdm FnohPGS7hE2XGdYkRLxd75jh0dgVq8xmo2j8g3/ll6zPwaRcdT6E3EZM+PTtIMvOzp n/q6xvy9Idxuw== Received: by alrua-kau.kau.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 6AC3AC40E0C; Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:32:21 +0100 (CET) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: Jonathan Morton Cc: Pete Heist , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <5B0FDEF9-6F7A-4222-8B73-C421066AB111@gmail.com> Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 12:32:21 +0100 In-Reply-To: <5B0FDEF9-6F7A-4222-8B73-C421066AB111@gmail.com> (Jonathan Morton's message of "Wed, 22 Feb 2017 13:24:59 +0200") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <874lzmfol6.fsf@alrua-kau> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] diffserv3 tin 2 target 50% of interval? X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2017 11:32:38 -0000 Jonathan Morton writes: >> On 22 Feb, 2017, at 13:12, Pete Heist wrote: >>=20 >> Ok, but for what it=E2=80=99s worth, so far I=E2=80=99m not seeing this = confer any benefit as >> far as latency is concerned. I will make full results available later, b= ut for >> now, here are two plots for the rrul test > > The RRUL test, when viewed in Flent, only shows the latency induced by on= e flow > (bulk) on another (ping). This is influenced mainly by the flow-isolation= and > priority-queue mechanisms, not by AQM. Flent in git will capture the TCP RTT (using ss) and plot that as well; you can try that out and see if you can measure a difference :) -Toke