From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [45.145.95.4]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 78D9D3CB37 for ; Fri, 8 Oct 2021 13:59:05 -0400 (EDT) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1633715944; bh=u2Cz1HtMFXotzfPLLvdx1VwMRAUqL79nn8FwN8Njl8s=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=eL5GzYDrvOuQ75N3Q205421WeGw2X5z3z0XKQG3rIXrV+PibqNwy3JJ7DOmQQQA6/ 1Fx6zA8Vm43YpSLpzf7PekcrY+7NtHjD+K5QorO28mcmffP9zGMBpGVrcNa164i0Y3 4XfYAfJ31bHaFr3LbroKuBvQq2pDvevRFWDb+E2FuIXfIuVE+lAW8/uKumthNgIK18 BkS/5Z1tYo72dbpd+vtBiOn/dIhgXQjYqSl5v3Lv0sRg1wVAwMiZgzaB/p5D7Wkozw RIBF68b1NEXbU/ukPCAnoU/imrKE6XVA0ePadkjTaxe2P2LATSF9V7ux0UNJNoE7Tf 8oT5rk3h0x4Zg== To: Dave Taht , Cake List In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 19:59:04 +0200 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <878rz3l7o7.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Cake] slightly negative deficits X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 08 Oct 2021 17:59:05 -0000 Dave Taht writes: > I have sometimes thought that allowing the deficit to go negative > (either one quantum or one mtu) might > result in slightly better service times, or tcp, or aqm behavior, > given tcp's requirement for two back to back packets > to release an ack. Why? Isn't that just equivalent to raising the quantum? -Toke