From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from us-smtp-1.mimecast.com (us-smtp-delivery-1.mimecast.com [205.139.110.120]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E14B13CB35 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 05:29:05 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=redhat.com; s=mimecast20190719; t=1590571745; h=from:from:reply-to:subject:subject:date:date:message-id:message-id: to:to:cc:cc:mime-version:mime-version:content-type:content-type: in-reply-to:in-reply-to:references:references; bh=sD17OhXd+pkv1skluPYQEoupIx4p1LUEhW655FZ+2+I=; b=i0yxryDj4p7G64/nWcZGJS/5/fJnpdhG/vNX8nVH4P47JT/rRVDf58NuCy1ndEmFm2v6F7 O0/NkDnpcHcb8WImZTJUr4fHu0ToUuVxIoJc5sMNFyY4ke0AArYUA961YeyFf3t86W+wQv IuwbafMxLjaJWu7GxZ8sTlG6VabMD70= Received: from mail-ej1-f70.google.com (mail-ej1-f70.google.com [209.85.218.70]) (Using TLS) by relay.mimecast.com with ESMTP id us-mta-476-yfG1l1qYNG-cqHJZNtmZMg-1; Wed, 27 May 2020 05:29:00 -0400 X-MC-Unique: yfG1l1qYNG-cqHJZNtmZMg-1 Received: by mail-ej1-f70.google.com with SMTP id lk22so8641739ejb.15 for ; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:29:00 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:mime-version; bh=sD17OhXd+pkv1skluPYQEoupIx4p1LUEhW655FZ+2+I=; b=AllEHYQrauUquQRkHA4dbL3gnwHe43VrFkPIVNAVoYa8sfvxAmWwOziY+uOLvLaBCC WwdvxnpAqCxOC9futOa6HJ4UKnbuDYt7WR3st9nIBGmRUvA6ufDMsG/oL78I6BTqsH6f xN6KRcsF0HGvVeQrj9Tn3lA7XwXcCE7uwG+WaDFAojUeDxZyzvKpPiwEWVnJpi0DD8ph e6Q7+ZrPv3vfba2Jpg2gkF4W+1Qagd0qTtOg5wVgFDtFzdPv/fkiTT6kCSWLZNteUZo6 ckdPEilaIGfAOwTKdkHy8qN4dJGfv8vlk1HXpjka5cckcTWYqr8A7bANd2VSQqzNbSLn YS7A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM531+IvfghgHxoiRo3C/fgmsc1/Ta3/JRxiQL5dgdt6rxtcKsTPTN vDSDhSLv/sMq14LoBwKaagDfnWrYp3x7sPJeaQXGsB6MQCJ86y92p2SZBY2mGdPyKyRLAtaz9GR DHpVhlOH5Z8r5IDNHbvPnEg== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3597:: with SMTP id o23mr5017956ejb.174.1590571739495; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:59 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJzPkutQ8acRSs53c82aCXQDJnptB6gpX/72FTHPYL9bZvX088aEBrjkUN3Ktl6SKUUOT6u3JA== X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:3597:: with SMTP id o23mr5017942ejb.174.1590571739308; Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:59 -0700 (PDT) Received: from alrua-x1.borgediget.toke.dk ([45.145.92.2]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id cz9sm1720088edb.18.2020.05.27.02.28.58 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Wed, 27 May 2020 02:28:58 -0700 (PDT) Received: by alrua-x1.borgediget.toke.dk (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 43EC01804EB; Wed, 27 May 2020 11:28:57 +0200 (CEST) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= To: Matthew Ford , Sebastian Moeller Cc: Cake List , Make-Wifi-fast , cerowrt-devel , bloat In-Reply-To: <289C7A4A-28B1-4692-AA2B-209347E65415@isoc.org> References: <05410663-5E50-4CF5-8ADE-3BBB985E32B1@gmx.de> <289C7A4A-28B1-4692-AA2B-209347E65415@isoc.org> X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 11:28:57 +0200 Message-ID: <878shd3ew6.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mimecast-Spam-Score: 0 X-Mimecast-Originator: redhat.com Content-Type: text/plain Subject: Re: [Cake] [Make-wifi-fast] [Bloat] dslreports is no longer free X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2020 09:29:06 -0000 Matthew Ford writes: > What's the bufferbloat verdict on https://speed.cloudflare.com/ ? Huh, didn't know about that. Seems they're measuring the latency before the download test, though, so no bufferbloat numbers. If anyone knows someone at Cloudflare we could try to bug to get this fixed, that would be awesome! Their FAQ links to https://www.speedcheck.org/ for "troubleshooting tips". And of course that page doesn't seem to mention latency or bufferbloat at all :( -Toke