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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>, Jakub Kicinski <kuba@kernel.org>
Cc: Jiri Pirko <jiri@resnulli.us>,
	netdev@vger.kernel.org, Jamal Hadi Salim <jhs@mojatatu.com>,
	cake@lists.bufferbloat.net, Eric Dumazet <edumazet@google.com>,
	Simon Horman <horms@kernel.org>,
	Cong Wang <xiyou.wangcong@gmail.com>,
	Paolo Abeni <pabeni@redhat.com>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] [PATCH net-next] net_sched: sch_cake: Add drop reasons
Date: Tue, 10 Dec 2024 09:42:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87a5d46i9c.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw4chUsQ40LQStvJBeOEENydbv58gOWz8y7fFPJkATa9tA@mail.gmail.com>

Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> writes:

> On Mon, Dec 9, 2024 at 3:52 PM Jakub Kicinski via Cake
> <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Mon, 09 Dec 2024 13:02:18 +0100 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>> > Add three qdisc-specific drop reasons for sch_cake:
>> >
>> >  1) SKB_DROP_REASON_CAKE_CONGESTED
>> >     Whenever a packet is dropped by the CAKE AQM algorithm because
>> >     congestion is detected.
>> >
>> >  2) SKB_DROP_REASON_CAKE_FLOOD
>> >     Whenever a packet is dropped by the flood protection part of the
>> >     CAKE AQM algorithm (BLUE).
>> >
>> >  3) SKB_DROP_REASON_CAKE_OVERLIMIT
>> >     Whenever the total queue limit for a CAKE instance is exceeded and a
>> >     packet is dropped to make room.
>>
>> Eric's patch was adding fairly FQ-specific reasons, other than flood
>> this seems like generic AQM stuff, no? From a very quick look the
>> congestion looks like fairly standard AQM, overlimit is also typical
>> for qdics?
>
> While I initially agreed with making this generic, preserving the qdisc from
> where the drop came lets you safely inspect the cb block (timestamp, etc),
> format of which varies by qdisc. You also get insight as to which
> qdisc was dropping.
>
> Downside is we'll end up with SKB_DROP_REASON_XXX_OVERLIMIT for
> each of the qdiscs. Etc.

Yeah, I agree that a generic "dropped by AQM" reason will be too generic
without knowing which qdisc dropped it. I guess any calls directly to
kfree_skb_reason() from the qdisc will provide the calling function, but
for qdisc_drop_reason() the drop will be deferred to __dev_queue_xmit(),
so no way of knowing where the drop came from, AFAICT?

-Toke


  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-10  8:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-09 12:02 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2024-12-09 13:26 ` Eric Dumazet
2024-12-09 23:00 ` Jamal Hadi Salim
2024-12-09 23:14 ` Dave Taht
2024-12-09 23:51 ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-10  0:25   ` Dave Taht
2024-12-10  8:42     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2024-12-10  9:10       ` Jonathan Morton
2024-12-11  1:28       ` Jakub Kicinski
2024-12-11  9:55         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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