From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@redhat.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Georgios Amanakis <gamanakis@gmail.com>,
Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] dual-src/dsthost unfairness, only with bi-directional traffic
Date: Fri, 18 Jan 2019 15:32:59 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87k1j23ujo.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2A195F4F-2F87-4742-93BE-273B5B8DB97D@gmail.com>
Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> writes:
>>> Yes, exactly. Would be interesting to hear what Jonathan, Toke and
>>> others think. I want to see if fairness is preserved in this case with
>>> sparse flows only. Could flent do this?
>>
>> Well, sparse flows are (by definition) not building a queue, so it
>> doesn't really make sense to talk about fairness for them. How would you
>> measure that?
>>
>> This is also the reason I agree that they shouldn't be counted for host
>> fairness calculation purposes, BTW...
>
> The trick is that we need to keep fairness of the deficit
> replenishments, which occur for sparse flows as well as bulk ones, but
> in smaller amounts. The number of active flows is presently the
> stand-in for this. It's possible to have a host backlogged with
> hundreds of new flows which are, by definition, sparse.
Right, there's some care needed to ensure we don't get weird behaviour
during transients such as flow startup.
> I'm still trying to get my head around how the modified code works in
> detail. It's possible that a different implementation would either be
> more concise and readable, or better model what is actually needed.
> But I can't tell until I grok it.
Cool, good to know you are on it; I'm happy to wait until you've had
some time to form an opinion on this :)
-Toke
prev parent reply other threads:[~2019-01-18 14:33 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 29+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2019-01-01 23:04 Pete Heist
2019-01-03 3:57 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-03 4:15 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-03 5:18 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-01-03 10:46 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-03 11:03 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-03 13:02 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-03 13:20 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-03 16:35 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-03 18:24 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-03 22:06 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-04 2:08 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-04 8:09 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-04 7:37 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-04 11:34 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-15 19:22 ` George Amanakis
2019-01-15 22:42 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-16 3:34 ` George Amanakis
2019-01-16 3:47 ` gamanakis
2019-01-16 7:58 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-26 7:35 ` Pete Heist
2019-01-28 1:34 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-18 10:06 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-18 12:07 ` Georgios Amanakis
2019-01-18 13:33 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-18 13:40 ` Sebastian Moeller
2019-01-18 14:30 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2019-01-18 13:45 ` Jonathan Morton
2019-01-18 14:32 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
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