From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [IPv6:2001:470:dc45:1000::1]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 539F63CB36 for ; Wed, 28 Mar 2018 11:53:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Toke =?utf-8?Q?H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1522252382; bh=B7JjwpDtOD4aNhfeY3sSWPEf2UZRU93dNU1JxO277yw=; h=From:To:Subject:In-Reply-To:References:Date:From; b=lxKH82DgkRxJa+Pde1M9EbIziDqfhc4MZEro8NCuFXExiHA5okQ0UkblIW2ENDXxi OLh3fLAic8LR6OJ8MyzvK/1yl2bEjHfFQ6braA7nmUgzbWN1pjMXJ96Cvnqtt6Vfo4 BKeM52+jF1yHrXApvOBkRkg9wQARvdaiO6JRQqZNFBnq/X+bvxqN71MhpBPIX3VHCA TT2HX0gu8xV51ziE9gML/AVrKedO+wxHZ+IZhWMiJRemPcRw8npsnBVNn8mFQ9HK7q 3ZlyJ46ohvAQ1pNe1rbfniV58KKWRiJxfhUkEwLQCnrinPEzIQPTXDI9Qss6hOj0Um q4Jdtp2WqsdhQ== To: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , Cake List In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 17:53:01 +0200 X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87k1twgpsy.fsf@toke.dk> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:53:03 -0000 Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant via Cake writes: > From: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant > Subject: bufferbloat still misunderstood & ignored > To: Cake List > Date: Wed, 28 Mar 2018 15:46:47 +0000 > > http://forums.thinkbroadband.com/talktalk/t/4587923-sensible-discussion-w= ith-talktalk-about-bufferbloat.html > > The thing that bothers me more than anything=E2=80=A6.. the first reply c= omes > from a staff member of =E2=80=98thinkbroadband=E2=80=99. "Solution is two get two lines, so if a big download is using up one they can do latency sensitive stuff on the other." Lovely; an ISP that found a way to monetise bufferbloat... :/ -Toke