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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Running Cake at long RTTs
Date: Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:36:57 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87pozzkns6.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <751BA26E-3CC7-4341-99C6-2448111A07B4@gmx.de> (Sebastian Moeller's message of "Wed, 28 Oct 2015 16:28:58 +0100")

Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de> writes:

> Except I requested rtf 120 ms and got 122.7, which admittedly is
> close. I know I repeat myself, but on of the is one things that
> irritate me in software is if software silently pretends to know
> better… Now 122.7 versus 120 might be in the noise, but look at that:

I don't remember from where, but I suspect there's something wrong with
the 'change' logic in Cake. Can you try removing the qdisc completely,
then re-adding it, rather than doing a straight replace?

Might not be that, but do try it out just to be sure. I have not looked
at the scaling of target/interval that goes on in the different bands;
but there is one? Or is there? If there is, why? It's not immediately
obvious that different diffserv markings needs different settings for
the AQM...

> Also I notice the disparity between parameter name “rtt” and the name
> of the reported statistic “interval”. Jonathan, Dave, what is your
> preference change the reported stats name or the parameter name (I
> believe it should be that statistic that needs renaming).

Yes, if we're calling it RTT it should be RTT throughout. I do think
that makes more sense than interval.

> Next question what is the opinion on exposing target in addition to
> interval? My point, which I might have over-repeated already, is we
> should expose and honor it if possible. (Any with honor I mean replace
> the 5ms default but do all calculations as cake usually does for
> different priority bands; that also means that if only one of interval
> or target where specified cake is free to scale the other one to what
> it considers reasonable).

I seem to recall that at some point we has "easy to configure" as a goal
of Cake.

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2015-10-28 15:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2015-10-27 15:14 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-27 15:16 ` Loganaden Velvindron
     [not found] ` <6499FF74-D13B-4B2E-90E3-D1FDD3FD1468@gmx.de>
2015-10-27 16:50   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-27 17:14     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-27 19:04 ` Jonathan Morton
2015-10-27 23:57   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-28  9:36     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-28 15:28 ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-28 15:36   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2015-10-28 15:50     ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-28 16:34       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2015-10-28 17:44         ` Sebastian Moeller
2015-10-29 17:36 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-10-30 20:30   ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2015-10-30 21:34   ` Dave Taht

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