From: Dave Taht <dave@taht.net>
To: Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Cake upstream Planning
Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 08:31:24 -0800 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87shde2nj7.fsf@nemesis.taht.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <F9CF3DD7-5AED-4EE5-AC47-C31A5AFE1FBE@gmail.com> (Pete Heist's message of "Thu, 16 Nov 2017 10:14:37 +0100")
Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com> writes:
>>> On Nov 15, 2017, at 9:04 PM, Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dave Taht <dave@taht.net> writes:
>>>
>>> TCP RTT ~= 8ms with default qdisc, throughput ~= 940 Mbit
>>> TCP RTT ~= 4.5ms with ‘cake unlimited’, throughput ~= 920 Mbit
>>> TCP RTT ~= 1ms with ‘cake unlimited lan’, throughput ~= 920 Mbit
>>>
>>>
>>> This was with BQL in play? Monitoring BQL's behavior might help.
>>>
>>> I'd also love to know an exact setting for the shaper as a close as
>>> possible to the underlying bandwidth of ethernet. However, I tend to be
>>> plagued with
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, with BQL (Intel I210 with igb driver on the APU2). An rrul_be test with —
>>> socket-stats.
>>
>> https://github.com/ffainelli/bqlmon was a tool for looking at bql more
>> directly.
>>
>> I had forked it for some reason or another:
>>
>> https://github.com/dtaht/bqlmon
>
> Nice, that does work for me. It’s interesting that there are four queues for the
> igb driver, 00 - 03, and when I try an rrul_be_nflows test, not all four queues
> are necessarily used. Once I get >= 8 flows in each direction they usually are
> though. I suppose this is the driver deciding when to start using another queue
> or not.
Usually it is selected via a hash. In more than a few cases, however,
the designer of the hardware intended it as a strict priority queue. In
other cases, it's based on the CPU.
In all cases such a limited number of queues tends to cause oddities.
I think it was the mvneta (?) that had the strict priority queue idea baked
into it, which we ended up disabling entirely and going with just one
hardware queue.
>
> Cake does seem to visibly reduce the size of the queues.
I generally observe that TSO/GRO/etc tends to make BQL's queues 3-5
times larger than they are without those offloads - no way to fix it,
short of doing what cake does to peel those apart.
> For whatever
> terminal/ncurses weirdness reason though, the bar graphs may be sometimes
> blowing off the top of my 45 row screen, but it doesn’t entirely ruin the
> experience.
Maybe that was why I forked it?
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2017-11-16 9:14 ` Pete Heist
2017-11-16 16:31 ` Dave Taht [this message]
2017-11-16 18:40 ` Pete Heist
2017-11-16 19:13 ` Dave Taht
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2017-11-16 9:50 ` Pete Heist
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2017-11-14 9:51 ` [Cake] Donation Pete Heist
2017-11-14 20:10 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 14:41 ` Pete Heist
2017-11-15 19:44 ` [Cake] Cake upstream Planning Dave Taht
2017-11-15 20:04 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 20:44 ` Pete Heist
2017-11-15 20:49 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 20:06 ` Pete Heist
2017-11-15 20:19 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 20:28 ` Nils Andreas Svee
2017-11-15 20:58 ` Pete Heist
2017-11-15 22:40 ` Nils Andreas Svee
2017-11-16 8:41 ` Pete Heist
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