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From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: Ruben <ruben@vfn-nrw.de>
Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Munin-Plugins
Date: Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:12:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <87va798b5h.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2c268b53-f921-471e-bc14-61fe2e66ed86@email.android.com>

Ruben <ruben@vfn-nrw.de> writes:

> Hey Toke,
>
> Thanks for your fast response!
>
> Am 13.09.2018 12:27 schrieb Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk>:
>
>
>     Ruben <ruben@vfn-nrw.de> writes:
>
>     > Hey guys,
>     >
>     > I've already mentioned this in a response to dtaht on GitHub, but here
>     > again for everyone:
>     >
>     > I was wondering if it's possible to extend the tin statistics by
>     > packets for backlog.
>
>     Why do you need packets when there's already bytes?
>
> Easy: dtaht requested a packets graph with ecn marks, which is also
> packets, so backlog as bytes do not fit, backlog as packets do.
>
> The idea was to do a multi-graph which is one graph with combined
> stats for all tins and sub graphs for all tins.
>
> On the main graph a backlog in packets is available, but I would need
> to leave out the backlog for the tins, which is somewhat confusing.

Why not just do both backlogs in bytes?

>     > Also I haven't found details on the man page, but haven't looked in
>     > the code how exactly flows are defined for the new 2 level fair
>     > queueings.
>
>     A flow is a flow (hash on the regular 5-tuple). Unless you install
>     custom tc filters, in which case a flow could be anything you want it to
>     be...
>
>     > I would like to show hosts as well as flows in a graph, in the various
>     > states as summary as well as per tin. But hosts aren't shown in the
>     > statistics. But they could be helpful to see unexpected rises if
>     > someone is abusing the system.
>
>     Hmm, guess we could do "number of hosts per tin" accounting as well as
>     flows. But it would be bloating up the already bloated statistics. But
>     on the other hand, they are already quite bloated, so another pair of
>     stats maybe wouldn't make much of a difference?
>
>
> How important is a row more or less? It's quite verbose already (what
> I like) - as long as the number is available without much additionally
> work needed.

It's the additional complexity of recording the stats internally in cake
I'm worried about, not the extra lines of output :)

-Toke

  reply	other threads:[~2018-09-13 19:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-09-11  2:22 Ruben
2018-09-11 10:44 ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-09-13  9:35 ` Ruben
2018-09-13 10:27   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-13 19:00     ` Ruben
2018-09-13 19:12       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-09-19  3:35         ` Ruben
2018-09-19  9:11           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-09-19 17:01             ` Dave Taht
2018-09-20  1:35               ` Ruben
2018-09-20  1:39             ` Ruben
2018-09-20  2:13               ` Jonathan Morton

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