From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail.toke.dk (mail.toke.dk [52.28.52.200]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9665A3B29E for ; Fri, 5 May 2017 09:59:52 -0400 (EDT) From: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=toke.dk; s=20161023; t=1493992790; bh=CCK4TIZqPOTA1q3/Pms4DKHDfjXDSKK56Qv/Sq/2N9Q=; h=From:To:Cc:Subject:References:Date:In-Reply-To:From; b=g118BZAWyQRGbNqOQZvLMnfZgBj8/nRTVLiFFbLzJyr1yMYORFYm1CY6YYQC5P47r uAqJMOK3OrOTCLm67SCW4PziSjdnyPpI8dHsDXpxGftkFx9NlyiGsoTRD1micxxuOG Immh6pMaS1mcuIyaP8gEIAtSSsT1lGTTXq1riQUfulnCBOh1LyYAlt21DcWqb87YCB Rnp/QE9JbZudCZAD/hk0Jj9V00TotbyBO8KKYM06OT/+FEspfiRH35DI8/7y3/Yeb/ MRNOIWS07H2bT60yq59xwScdEzAtP848+eTxT8pjKV0MkS1TUrtbJnEeN/JGy+2o8z D7hnFkLgSj0TQ== To: Cc: , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net References: <1493989225450.12354@telenor.com> <1493992526496.9641@telenor.com> Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 15:59:50 +0200 In-Reply-To: <1493992526496.9641@telenor.com> (erik taraldsen's message of "Fri, 5 May 2017 13:55:26 +0000") X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett Message-ID: <87wp9vjtex.fsf@alrua-kau> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: Re: [Cake] ER-X now running cake, thanks for the help. :) X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 05 May 2017 13:59:52 -0000 writes: >> Fra: Sebastian Moeller > >> .. snip =20 >> One problem with the unelastic load is that as far as I can tell no flow= on the open internet is=20 >> allows/assumed to behave like that (isn=E2=80=99t the default tcp-friend= ly, and inelastic DOS traffic is=20 >> essentially out-lawed?) > > You are right in that single stream udp without any feedback is a > quite unrealistic load. It is however usually a good indicator of > possible trouble with bufferbloat. When I get delays in the multiple > seconds range there usually is no point in running more realistic > tests such as flent, so I tend to start with that udp test before > setting up a lab. Current record found in production systems is 34 > seconds. How are you measuring latency in this case? -Toke