From: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>
To: David Lang <david@lang.hm>
Cc: Pete Heist <pete@eventide.io>,
Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>,
cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] Pre-print of Cake paper available
Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2018 22:28:25 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <87y3hb3uae.fsf@toke.dk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.02.1804251141400.12043@nftneq.ynat.uz>
David Lang <david@lang.hm> writes:
> On Tue, 24 Apr 2018, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen wrote:
>
>> Pete Heist <pete@eventide.io> writes:
>>
>>>> On Apr 24, 2018, at 7:58 AM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Turning NAT support on by default might actually be reasonable, since
>>>> it doesn't really break anything if it's not needed - it just eats a
>>>> bit of CPU with unnecessary conntrack lookups.
>>>
>>> I would be for it, if it eats say < 1% additional CPU, and preferably
>>> less. I expect the impact to increase with packet rates.
>>
>> I'm a bit worried that the way it is implemented now, if we turn it on
>> by default we risk activating conntrack even when it was otherwise
>> disabled...
>
> I will say that just about every system ships with conntrack enabled, and
> disabling it can be pretty difficult (especially in LEDE/OpenWRT), there are so
> many things that require it that tracking them all down and disabling them is
> very difficult.
>
> There are not that many places where Cake is going to be used that NAT or some
> other thing that requires connection tracking is not also going to be used, in
> the remaining cases, can it be disabled manually in configs after it's been
> sucked in automatically?
Hmm, actually it looks like just compiling against the conntrack code
adds a module dependency on conntrack. And as far as I can tell, the
code doesn't initiate any new conntrack state if it doesn't already
exist. So I think it's safe to turn on NAT mode by default. Will add
that :)
-Toke
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2018-04-25 20:28 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-04-23 8:39 Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-23 9:54 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-23 23:01 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-23 23:31 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24 5:44 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 5:58 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24 7:15 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 7:56 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-24 8:45 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 8:57 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-25 18:44 ` David Lang
2018-04-25 20:28 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen [this message]
2018-04-26 19:27 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-27 11:08 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-27 11:20 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 8:17 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-24 8:47 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 8:50 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-04-24 9:06 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 9:15 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 9:36 ` Pete Heist
2018-04-24 9:18 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-24 9:30 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 9:38 ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-04-24 9:44 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-04-24 15:08 ` John Yates
2018-04-24 8:43 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
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