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From: Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] the Cake stalemate
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2018 00:34:58 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <890C5020-6892-4022-855E-BFD7774E8971@heistp.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <30FC3100-FD44-425F-BA42-ED432F816201@gmail.com>


> On Jun 19, 2018, at 10:35 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 19 Jun, 2018, at 11:14 pm, Pete Heist <pete@heistp.net> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t think we can do much better than “it makes your Internet faster”, which is what most people want
> 
> s/faster/reliable/
> 
> It would be really nice to be able to say "go out and buy this box, plug it in and run through the setup wizard" instead of "go through the frankly scary process of reflashing your router with OpenWRT".  In that case we might really get some traction.

There could be a transparent bridge available with Cake installed that just has a web interface for a few basic settings, but it would only help people with WiFi APs or switches / networks separate from their router. Probably not most people.

My secret hope is we’re heading into an era when people will want to own their data once again and move it out of the cloud and back into their residences. Small, Linux-based home devices will be so cheap, powerful and reliable that they’ll route, store, serve, control, be an AP, plus allow the installation of unprivileged containers or apps with various distributed functionalities. Just like some join cooperative ISPs, people will join a cooperative to pay for the engineering, development and support of these devices, because they’ll realize that it’s the right thing to do instead of selling themselves for “free” services that perpetuate monopolies. Seems like a long way about it, but surely then we can fund and install Cake on these devices. :) If it wouldn’t be everyone, maybe it would be for some? for enough? pipe dream?

  parent reply	other threads:[~2018-06-19 22:35 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-19  9:31 Pete Heist
2018-06-19  9:55 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-06-19 10:04   ` Pete Heist
2018-06-19 11:32   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-19 11:54     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-06-19 12:26       ` Pete Heist
2018-06-19 13:41         ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-06-19 14:48           ` Pete Heist
2018-06-19 16:24             ` Dave Taht
2018-06-19 20:14               ` Pete Heist
2018-06-19 20:35                 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-19 21:48                   ` Dave Taht
2018-06-19 23:41                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-19 22:34                   ` Pete Heist [this message]
2018-06-19 23:38                   ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-20  3:36                     ` Jonathan Morton
2018-06-20  4:34                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-06-19 12:08     ` Pete Heist

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