From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22a.google.com (mail-lj1-x22a.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22a]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E11773B29E for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 18:21:35 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x22a.google.com with SMTP id w16-v6so8313628ljh.12 for ; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 15:21:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=qWbM5VDBNbClQ3HjWiBwT2B7t8kkdwLzJVv+vEJx1Tk=; b=u7NzDbl8fQ756w/HGSwr1xgRz6O7bcmGcfks1rbwgYsQCx1mdKon8wl95Wgh3BStrf /58BzRwreRdxAxreSCWFvxZ20Iz6PIdVHAxxGqqbob1JwIrT9j2CEXuFOJ4EBCEe6kFP SdlTqVXV03g+SUmNlYLMik6C9vcEz/hiG7YyzHjQt5Pn+c/eIZYVmxrAsPkPZRjLlnja 4C7LsoI1Oa+tlG0w5tHhm5pKONhDF6NKl4/gkGBe7i56JwbKxAB0WOTuV6gLoN9qLPuG AUB5GbW4Fhu4znjWGX+EkAXNMIHEb0YII1kn9X6rqwmHWPUyaY/bHj17fsR0P0s7X8Xj p/HA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=qWbM5VDBNbClQ3HjWiBwT2B7t8kkdwLzJVv+vEJx1Tk=; b=EhdaJqzFJXIcYsPBBXirg6yWuamId6hK7P4n8Rm4Lc0p2LdiUgBGEqAzvdk/IRCIDX eVF4SKClWhxrNbjKGiZOgVGSG1Hg/Ck9NqqzfkRwqaOFxMiwDhkvgJD3B/jh/n0gA6sM 8H7rjcjqZ9fUXQdO7NL4L7rUVB/+rq3pCNjsMrj/Bf15eM2GOma9qi00WM2QFyJe0+ie uHrK8H9RAw0HfAmLjK4jey1Aa0X+sNqv7MUDRV0V78IltNB+X8d+WKPzNfD2mzp151YH j+C/z5e4TiLNNdKOTNg986L1MKVRxLXz+ElZGqC0P/JHbv6PfxQvJLuX6o6TntmUQWOK zlGg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlFjR7sIszNAYCWliDFSmr5krICDiULwpiM/tZyW8bf5gWO1XF/s sYiREw4hOBys93bZzEz1hnM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpe1TmMVBabyW6Icd4sUHMQV8ZILSnwjKGocdttBqzbgDFt4/yBn7g91ELK/NvcdCqyuOz3qEw== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:91d6:: with SMTP id u22-v6mr13628294ljg.64.1532989294639; Mon, 30 Jul 2018 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.239.216] (83-245-234-71-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.234.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id x3-v6sm2251025ljb.25.2018.07.30.15.21.33 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Jul 2018 15:21:34 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 01:21:32 +0300 Cc: Cake List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <91027520-F63D-4B26-BBF6-07C4364994A6@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Cake] aqm bumps on the wire X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2018 22:21:36 -0000 > On 30 Jul, 2018, at 3:36 am, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > http://cseweb.ucsd.edu/~gmporter/papers/netbump-ancs12.pdf Some notable comments on Linux network-stack latency in here. However, = it appears that they tried only a 2.6.x kernel, got bad results, and = promptly gave up. No investigation of whether a decade-newer 4.x kernel = might, just possibly, have incorporated improvements. - Jonathan Morton