From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wm0-x22c.google.com (mail-wm0-x22c.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c09::22c]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 51AD53BA8E for ; Sun, 3 Dec 2017 06:37:58 -0500 (EST) Received: by mail-wm0-x22c.google.com with SMTP id f9so9843955wmh.0 for ; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 03:37:58 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc:message-id:references :to; bh=UlMUaaSIYylIjz8gcRedemkr6ZqhTWjc43i9eTTHolU=; b=Xyc6M48Jq1rfih/gVtLeJZTS3Wb9Hvx6RTvr2vGe8RurF2mntWBJnaujDRIx7FAiGu NHQPq6G2wt5zyP7cUEkSKStc4GDx/NW1HupVljj21fPbuEghaYoz2D+FSL77lPBVaMz6 hxpEU8ihlvmHiFmwmbAty8fl8MUsGcWGa8sF7d0fQwS79Tvw02mnjRDnjBhKRjJLSaUL Qv7dn+lSYVo69ryIcMWR7OnPxW00JBDQzbnjWiOJR+3tz1y+aAzlwP1PjHgRR17rZBBy EpgJTJRix7cLBFATMhYYhjfqSlRBKyo92ej86znLrfZXgxKetpEOv+lHFzLfjSFh+usn l7Tw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=UlMUaaSIYylIjz8gcRedemkr6ZqhTWjc43i9eTTHolU=; b=YgrzIUh5kGksYJjo3EWsIwDswcr4ZTWzeTtvK3x1sGsQwUqHCoUbY+xeWQgl9A2ges Tff+5EQO1o1oMhFmr0/Ehgnb/9Vj/cLRXwqcjWzek05mN1PHOQJhqltijWmfGFEPQwJa U5kysRbEmTQd7vwgSrHhbu/ct2SdIV62HKe2ZLe6Wukm7cWNX0Bv5nT4xOVZvRScStgd jg+yuNl0ZG/Z2l/s+T/I8grz8UVhsRT3+mgBxBetCCc+jaryKkOl/IFTGHjDr8NqYW0d VVGwapc+yGmCrccYFqR9cyRIUCz7yKbWm80l4EepFWcePwsooi7P3lNKipWVkum9Wzh2 /3QQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AKGB3mIpjQ9bIqgxDYJvvimTkPbw624DUuN7T61l4qvNEa1CA969BvcP FRN7j0JjKRGShmpKcf3Nl/M= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGs4zMYAyVvTix3+9PuGvmc73QnQ5BKwnHZpTEVn+KAzhnzAFMCPy09hXg2pkmpjT4/k8oWKeAHZ2Q== X-Received: by 10.28.95.7 with SMTP id t7mr4701814wmb.86.1512301077291; Sun, 03 Dec 2017 03:37:57 -0800 (PST) Received: from [10.72.0.130] (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.99.119.68]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 128sm1078442wmi.28.2017.12.03.03.37.56 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 03 Dec 2017 03:37:56 -0800 (PST) Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_CB2A9816-2295-4C62-9979-8C8D943620A3" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Pete Heist In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 3 Dec 2017 12:37:58 +0100 Cc: Cake List Message-Id: <94A0F8E1-0C3C-4E55-804B-DCD98647BB14@gmail.com> References: To: Dave Taht X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Cake] new 12 core box X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 03 Dec 2017 11:37:58 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_CB2A9816-2295-4C62-9979-8C8D943620A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Dec 2, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > Linux spaceheater 4.15.0-rc1-cake-5 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 2 12:50:23 > PST 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux >=20 > I had all kinds of trouble trying to install anything later than > ubuntu 16.04.3 on it. >=20 > A kernel build still took an hour, and it turns out that time is > dominated by the single threaded debian packager, where less cores at > more clock would help. Still have time for naps, except that it's so > loud to require earplugs. I like the name. =E2=80=9Cdornierdox=E2=80=9D doesn=E2=80=99t have the = same smooth ring: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_X = (Powerplant: 12=C3=97 = Curtiss Conqueror water-cooled V12) Who decides to build that? I still think a box like that will be useful for veth testing. I=E2=80=99ve been really happy with the 2x APU2 you suggested, for their = four cores and silence. I even think 2-3 more of them could be useful = for different testing topologies as we discussed. Next time though, I = won=E2=80=99t futz around when attaching the heat spreader, just fix the = thermal adhesive, mount it to the board straight away and be careful not = to twist anything. First attempt: apu2a. Got it right: apu2b. The second = box is consistently 5C cooler, though both are well within spec, usually = under 65C under full load. sysadmin@apu2a:~$ sensors k10temp-pci-00c3 temp1: +52.4=C2=B0C (high =3D +70.0=C2=B0C) (crit =3D +105.0=C2=B0C, hyst =3D +104.0=C2=B0C) sysadmin@apu2b:~$ sensors k10temp-pci-00c3 temp1: +46.6=C2=B0C (high =3D +70.0=C2=B0C) --Apple-Mail=_CB2A9816-2295-4C62-9979-8C8D943620A3 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
On Dec 2, 2017, at 11:10 PM, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>= wrote:

Linux spaceheater 4.15.0-rc1-cake-5 #1 SMP PREEMPT Sat Dec 2 = 12:50:23
PST 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux

I had all kinds of trouble trying to install = anything later than
ubuntu 16.04.3 on it.

A kernel build still took an hour, and it turns out that time = is
dominated by the single threaded debian packager, where = less cores at
more clock would help. Still have time for = naps, except that it's so
loud to require earplugs.

I= like the name. =E2=80=9Cdornierdox=E2=80=9D doesn=E2=80=99t have the = same smooth ring: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dornier_Do_X (Powerplant= : 12=C3=97 Curtiss Conqueror water-cooled V12) Who = decides to build that?

I still think a box like that will be useful for veth = testing.

I=E2=80= =99ve been really happy with the 2x APU2 you suggested, for their four = cores and silence. I even think 2-3 more of them could be useful for = different testing topologies as we discussed. Next time though, I = won=E2=80=99t futz around when attaching the heat spreader, just fix the = thermal adhesive, mount it to the board straight away and be careful not = to twist anything. First attempt: apu2a. Got it right: apu2b. The second = box is consistently 5C cooler, though both are well within spec, usually = under 65C under full load.

sysadmin@apu2a:~$ sensors
k10temp-pci-00c3
temp1:      =   +52.4=C2=B0C  (high =3D +70.0=C2=B0C)
                =        (crit =3D +105.0=C2=B0C, hyst =3D = +104.0=C2=B0C)

sysadmin@apu2b:~$ sensors
k10temp-pci-00c3
temp1:      =   +46.6=C2=B0C  (high =3D +70.0=C2=B0C)

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