From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (Client CN "mout.gmx.net", Issuer "TeleSec ServerPass DE-1" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6A09721F328 for ; Tue, 6 Oct 2015 01:37:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from u-089-d066.biologie.uni-tuebingen.de ([134.2.89.66]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LrJTs-1amEv438ai-013ANJ; Tue, 06 Oct 2015 10:37:26 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 7.3 \(1878.6\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: <87fv1o2yfj.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 10:37:24 +0200 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <98210F4F-DBFA-4BF4-8184-F8C3446E5605@gmx.de> References: <0EB23696-5866-48C5-AC7E-B8570C7AA900@gmx.de> <561369A9.2090607@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <0F1BBA35-381C-4405-967A-3E266CFCC6F1@gmx.de> <87k2r02z4d.fsf@toke.dk> <87fv1o2yfj.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?windows-1252?Q?Toke_H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.1878.6) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:vZCccb1XeB9RMiluChk4UnhlUJOLcb5MhXOe289mH9v0gZF2UaP pYhCfElqj21cDLP5A/pspLZfPKyFHAEs2F28dIx82H+cHrlmeXiEbmNtVqRfY/QaM1GUK6L 7uq+LIu+YYfR/pG3z5NRbQU5rXPx5UJR2WYnKoLMz999e9CoAOrMowkMihpt61041v3MVz3 hi0ZBSkQ/dUWLk7rMns7A== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:S+2ZqR/TGu4=:nHaILYdECIiTa1lm5Blogq gyCmV5cpalAONFhSFfTD4HIwF+Vf3Clyh26SKrik1Pr11WVWLr+RVi0V7E6c9j8vhhtmhgAKS K3CqfFkOoZ9rCYiDAXDrzr/velMPn155Axkw70J9eX3J2zjvjGJNRNvnLaAntUI4Sf8Z9CGq+ m0Ony79zFCyvrEwnOiJNQ+9bbB3VTrKBgdwGrhPYc+jC02rEO8FV8TWX2tM6XvTOhC9YVruYV rnNWON3wg4kq6yZlqfcFoAwralUu1Ol/00kRu2LyqSRSiM+Tn5c4BiDbzO1j/kArJza5l+ZIV gNePf1LB2bablfkh6rWe4iDaBHiMH8NIFvnG9yG21pCCG190V8Byq6qt5sNs91TFhWmZMbBu7 /LaiT4ARsPGlRKA9ptr3Gtl4SCCidSTYsUUW7rxIz7CI6bv91iHe9EwqPYDB+DSx5DIyAJqJM j5ZDqoa5+lWFuXmQZHFcwTqzt2ywuJtxbu16W2mtYPvnzLxVInE0OyXUVCGJDZjnIEOJn7UmS XCWL6GZFnff998jsPsq3/B+c4NEyNoofTloQByX9bsv/2okVcZ5L3SCWRNifcaVz8wIfDI2jV 74wVJtWY8udVCNj86LIuC8A5oUnGm5QjX/mi1mWD6uYMZksIyn3ftJ5SxArRma3k0nTvkDH8t C31tivtMgW9DLAfJa2LTpHjqFaWVF96JCKKS7dGGko0iXqOCs+w9CgNRqaZAqsnZ4Gr16LzWp pj4ujCZHGG4Yo19rZp8qxNILiq1YpCopF5ykRruA4bhmi5zSKRom1GW2YgXwHF5gxqpp1mUbx TjFtZU1 Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cake] flow_hash vs host_hash X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 06 Oct 2015 08:37:29 -0000 Hi Toke, On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:28 , Toke H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen = wrote: > Sebastian Moeller writes: >=20 >> Hi Toke, >>=20 >> On Oct 6, 2015, at 10:13 , Toke H=F8iland-J=F8rgensen = wrote: >>=20 >>> Sebastian Moeller writes: >>>=20 >>>> I believe you nailed it, but the pony will still work on egress, >>>=20 >>> Don't packets hit the qdisc after NAT has been applied? >>=20 >> As far as I know not for IFBs; that is the reason why we need tc = filters >> on ingress and can not use netfilter. And why using iptables to map = the DSCP to >> zero will still result in our shaper seeing the DSCP markings from = upstream >> (which I could confirm happening for IPv6, as my ISP conserved = flent=92s DSCP >> marks, so I saw nice priority band based stratification in flent's = graphics). I >> think that IFBs predecessor IMQ was different in that regard. >=20 > No, I meant on egress... >=20 > -Toke Ah, I see. I guess you are right, but on egress we could get back to the = pre-nat addresses, like Vincent does in nxt_routed_hfsc.qos? Best Regards Sebastian=