From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 359173B29E for ; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 10:49:28 -0500 (EST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1639410564; bh=c4IRwp8jsH2qmHN/jJrz6FMOaEh7XG6TzAfR668Mju8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=VsZ39YK8/8MP/RsZpB+mQ5dfFCUmSenIoVcYpxdjgdGSq8JxEwn9HQRQKf2cLFVgq 18FNCWeGj5+mSudmHgQbzm7LBC8hNONTJ1HDecvN6q+a7j4VOQh4bv8qHQHlHAJfku P4mMOwBgd5BoMeIRHyw+TLteXN+uYZEggUYnfJ0g= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx104 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mt79F-1mhBRC1gfx-00tQoB; Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:49:23 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 14.0 \(3654.120.0.1.13\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 16:49:22 +0100 Cc: Cake List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: <9939A1DB-DEC4-4C1D-9BD8-5FF7D41933EF@gmx.de> References: To: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3654.120.0.1.13) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:aXVvz3+uOxI4xcfS6GM3AIEuzkBvD72EhsOHNBJKsoRTQ261JAr xHUJ5KKv3mUZ0uiQvmlu5KhefXjXEO8xcrp3LgOhtbPIQpHY8ekDluYygZyt6CLmmzng4CF eU2lz4aG2NJwWaHCFWqE7rZpRe2TTnTZAhM2ufS4u28RKR7KZ7OUm0l4ZWDYvHL+EzCWhaY mOecM3qCQylffevQfCh/g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:GfhMRO5soWQ=:COHa3mvw3xCn3A0E1wXobV 72LLDBHWLAjXpl3WfjdKqWFyLY6uyp9/quDaqDhCvgQwZWGl+ogk3WJXYs+ynqrYRKKcMuHhT 2KGU7HuHLGjmQLO/TrYGuT+eSuH3VwyJSdZeoSpuIWTiO/EPhGWont1FhPjbZnjubvptKOjbK X9+AHze4P2GPytEP0a4qqBkUB1Qcq/I7WQaieOJwUumRT+iukFYV8mYbou4hoTxAlctoDH8Ul 8U5N5sVmTYgTFUd+nCfzTegBKBK9zt8J/EiVOVX/9qLZ7W5O1x9AU2kDcC6Zlvt6d3X+JoT7N hFakbQgYJiK3VLEp3M1Q9YnVUHYur1DRJhm4J8gK6KSgZGfhJIM1NNCSprQy/64roW8+Tfq/I CRltXbn3On3MHpINHYuuMD7mOmQ/KXjAkcVwJmcShLUV0RACO7oaM0G/3lP5gLS11W2N6Qwna D4M5ZGsq8bqx49z5zznKTdBpZHY93qCK2VWkZjuqo3HARG5iWIbwUilNbTalPglFQd53dk2Fv +mTVz16BN+b+MzPmGzMlAKb5XbiM7HVGWO9x+C1KxrzOhOLOuDigMFWgECmAUQnqfQ05vLPZi l1r0mkwVpk+fOEa2sv6Py7wsAs6TCfd1wcrG0WpDHnUAFmf0rwTdVU44OJoMvGDui3YWmsU9D ZOZXuW9lHPgFYUFJzsdHQ1SJkkA3qahr/xKVWi7M2hkpJg2F2dxWUB0JoGzvYyehWU5FA0sRv ELoNOzBJdvzB8kmE5cJZ+JWXzFNJAkws5vcZ6AMYKaLGhwMwVShz9TrpOeO+u7bnhXAZBR2iL I+lgJhc1xRzCuwgqw1Mw5wM4AblzmZdcw2ttRR+LxnyMNFI+tA= Subject: Re: [Cake] arl qdisc looks clever X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 13 Dec 2021 15:49:28 -0000 Hi Dave=20 " The latency measurement come from two sources: one is the RTT from = kernel=E2=80=99s * TCP/IP stacks, another is the half path RTT measured from routed TCP * streams. " What if a router terminates almost no local traffic and mostly handles = say wireguard VPN traffic in UDP? Other than that I really appreciate that this seems to use the same = ideas that we currently play with over in the openwrt forum... Great = that this is additional prior art (similar to LEDBAT) so that there = should be no legal un-depth to expect. Regards Sebastian > On Dec 13, 2021, at 16:42, Dave Taht wrote: >=20 > = https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromiumos/third_party/kernel/+/refs/hea= ds/stabilize-quickfix-13310.76.B-chromeos-4.14-gw/net/sched/sch_arl.c >=20 > --=20 > I tried to build a better future, a few times: > https://wayforward.archive.org/?site=3Dhttps%3A%2F%2Fwww.icei.org >=20 > Dave T=C3=A4ht CEO, TekLibre, LLC > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake