From: George Amanakis <g_amanakis@yahoo.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>, cake@lists.bufferbloat.net
Subject: Re: [Cake] total download rate with many flows
Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2017 20:53:57 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <99793bbc-c7c5-43a7-f916-823dbd22f37a@yahoo.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <80d2c766-bde4-d46e-7b7a-0a24c8ef78c2@yahoo.com>
I meant proportionally to (1-1/sqrt(x)).
On 11/13/2017 8:51 PM, George Amanakis wrote:
> I am exploring this idea further. If q->time_next_packet is
> incremented for dropped packets proportionally to (1-1/x), where x is
> the count of all flows in the tin that is being served, ingress mode
> works much more smoothly: latency is still <50ms and throughput is
> very near to the set limit.
>
> I *tried* to make a patch from latest cobalt.
>
> =============8<=============
> diff --git a/sch_cake.c b/sch_cake.c
> index 82f264f..752783a 100644
> --- a/sch_cake.c
> +++ b/sch_cake.c
> @@ -145,6 +145,7 @@ struct cake_flow {
> struct list_head flowchain;
> s32 deficit;
> struct cobalt_vars cvars;
> + struct cobalt_vars cvars2;
> u16 srchost; /* index into cake_host table */
> u16 dsthost;
> u8 set;
> @@ -254,6 +255,7 @@ struct cake_sched_data {
> u32 avg_window_bytes;
> u32 avg_peak_bandwidth;
> u64 last_reconfig_time;
> + u32 drop_len;
> };
>
> enum {
> @@ -820,7 +822,7 @@ static unsigned int cake_drop(struct Qdisc *sch,
> struct sk_buff **to_free)
> sch->qstats.drops++;
>
> if(q->rate_flags & CAKE_FLAG_INGRESS)
> - cake_advance_shaper(q, b, cake_overhead(q, len), now);
> + q->drop_len += len;
>
> #if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(4, 8, 0)
> kfree_skb(skb);
> @@ -1274,7 +1276,9 @@ retry:
> /* drop this packet, get another one */
> if(q->rate_flags & CAKE_FLAG_INGRESS) {
> len = cake_overhead(q, qdisc_pkt_len(skb));
> - cake_advance_shaper(q, b, len, now);
> + flow->cvars2.count =
> b->bulk_flow_count+b->sparse_flow_count+b->decaying_flow_count+b->unresponsive_flow_count;
> + cobalt_invsqrt(&(flow->cvars2));
> + q->drop_len += (len - reciprocal_scale(len,
> flow->cvars2.rec_inv_sqrt));
> flow->deficit -= len;
> b->tin_deficit -= len;
> }
> @@ -1286,8 +1290,6 @@ retry:
> qdisc_qstats_drop(sch);
> kfree_skb(skb);
> #endif
> - if(q->rate_flags & CAKE_FLAG_INGRESS)
> - goto retry;
> }
>
> b->tin_ecn_mark += !!flow->cvars.ecn_marked;
> @@ -1340,7 +1342,7 @@ static void cake_advance_shaper(struct
> cake_sched_data *q, struct cake_tin_data
> if(q->rate_ns) {
> s64 tdiff1 = b->tin_time_next_packet - now;
> s64 tdiff2 = (len * (u64)b->tin_rate_ns) >>
> b->tin_rate_shft;
> - s64 tdiff3 = (len * (u64)q->rate_ns) >> q->rate_shft;
> + s64 tdiff3 = ((q->drop_len + len) * (u64)q->rate_ns)
> >> q->rate_shft;
>
> if(tdiff1 < 0)
> b->tin_time_next_packet += tdiff2;
> @@ -1348,6 +1350,7 @@ static void cake_advance_shaper(struct
> cake_sched_data *q, struct cake_tin_data
> b->tin_time_next_packet = now + tdiff2;
>
> q->time_next_packet += tdiff3;
> + q->drop_len = 0;
> }
> }
>
> @@ -1711,6 +1714,7 @@ static void cake_reconfigure(struct Qdisc *sch)
> {
> struct cake_sched_data *q = qdisc_priv(sch);
> int c, ft;
> + q->drop_len=0;
>
> switch (q->tin_mode) {
> case CAKE_MODE_BESTEFFORT:
> @@ -1941,6 +1945,7 @@ static int cake_init(struct Qdisc *sch, struct
> nlattr *opt)
>
> INIT_LIST_HEAD(&flow->flowchain);
> cobalt_vars_init(&flow->cvars);
> + cobalt_vars_init(&flow->cvars2);
>
> q->overflow_heap[k].t = i;
> q->overflow_heap[k].b = j;
>
> =============8<=============
>
>
>
> On 11/11/2017 10:48 PM, George Amanakis wrote:
>> I totally understand what you are saying. However, I believe cake's
>> egress and ingress modes currently behave as two extremes. One could
>> argue that neither of them is the golden mean. With a patch in
>> ingress mode (see below) and a single host using 32 flows to download
>> I managed to increase throughput from ~7Mbps to ~10Mbps (configured
>> limit 12200kbps) while latency increased from ~10ms to ~50ms, which
>> would still be acceptable. As a comparison egress mode in the same
>> setup gives me throughput ~11.5Mbps and latency ~500ms.
>>
>> I would like to hear your thoughts about this idea: the patch is
>> incrementing q->time_next_packet for dropped packets differently than
>> for passed-through ones. Please focus on the idea, not the actual
>> implementation :) (also pasted in https://pastebin.com/SZ14WiYw)
>>
>> =============8<=============
>>
>> diff --git a/sch_cake.c b/sch_cake.c
>> index 82f264f..a3a4a88 100644
>> --- a/sch_cake.c
>> +++ b/sch_cake.c
>> @@ -769,6 +769,7 @@ static void cake_heapify_up(struct
>> cake_sched_data *q, u16 i)
>> }
>>
>> static void cake_advance_shaper(struct cake_sched_data *q, struct
>> cake_tin_data *b, u32 len, u64 now);
>> +static void cake_advance_shaper2(struct cake_sched_data *q, struct
>> cake_tin_data *b, u32 len, u64 now);
>>
>> #if LINUX_VERSION_CODE < KERNEL_VERSION(4, 8, 0)
>> static unsigned int cake_drop(struct Qdisc *sch)
>> @@ -1274,7 +1275,7 @@ retry:
>> /* drop this packet, get another one */
>> if(q->rate_flags & CAKE_FLAG_INGRESS) {
>> len = cake_overhead(q, qdisc_pkt_len(skb));
>> - cake_advance_shaper(q, b, len, now);
>> + cake_advance_shaper2(q, b, len, now);
>> flow->deficit -= len;
>> b->tin_deficit -= len;
>> }
>> @@ -1286,8 +1287,6 @@ retry:
>> qdisc_qstats_drop(sch);
>> kfree_skb(skb);
>> #endif
>> - if(q->rate_flags & CAKE_FLAG_INGRESS)
>> - goto retry;
>> }
>>
>> b->tin_ecn_mark += !!flow->cvars.ecn_marked;
>> @@ -1351,6 +1350,24 @@ static void cake_advance_shaper(struct
>> cake_sched_data *q, struct cake_tin_data
>> }
>> }
>>
>> +static void cake_advance_shaper2(struct cake_sched_data *q, struct
>> cake_tin_data *b, u32 len, u64 now)
>> +{
>> + /* charge packet bandwidth to this tin, lower tins,
>> + * and to the global shaper.
>> + */
>> + if(q->rate_ns) {
>> + s64 tdiff1 = b->tin_time_next_packet - now;
>> + s64 tdiff2 = (len * (u64)b->tin_rate_ns) >>
>> b->tin_rate_shft;
>> + s64 tdiff3 = (len * (u64)q->rate_ns) >> q->rate_shft;
>> +
>> + if(tdiff1 < 0)
>> + b->tin_time_next_packet += tdiff2;
>> + else if(tdiff1 < tdiff2)
>> + b->tin_time_next_packet = now + tdiff2;
>> +
>> + q->time_next_packet += (tdiff3*27)>>5;
>> + }
>> +}
>> static void cake_reset(struct Qdisc *sch)
>> {
>> u32 c;
>>
>> =============8<=============
>>
>> On 11/10/2017 4:50 PM, Jonathan Morton wrote:
>>>
>>> In fact, that's why I put a failsafe into ingress mode, so that it
>>> would never stall completely. It can happen, however, that
>>> throughput is significantly reduced when the drop rate is high.
>>>
>>> If throughput is more important to you than induced latency, switch
>>> to egress mode.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately it's not possible to guarantee both low latency and
>>> high throughput when operating downstream of the bottleneck link.
>>> ECN gives you better results, though.
>>>
>>> - Jonathan Morton
>>>
>>
>
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2017-11-01 0:44 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-01 1:06 ` Antoine Deschênes
2017-11-01 1:41 ` George Amanakis
2017-11-01 3:37 ` George Amanakis
[not found] ` <mailman.907.1509507446.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-11-01 22:01 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-10 16:32 ` George Amanakis
[not found] ` <mailman.964.1510331572.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-11-10 20:42 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-10 20:54 ` George Amanakis
[not found] ` <mailman.968.1510347301.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
[not found] ` <CAJq5cE0fsOUZid7peQQYE5qwqBr9GNCx_hYE7dWs4F4UTS=RTA@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-10 21:50 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-12 3:48 ` George Amanakis
2017-11-14 1:51 ` George Amanakis
2017-11-14 1:53 ` George Amanakis [this message]
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2017-11-14 2:08 ` David Lang
2017-11-14 2:49 ` George Amanakis
[not found] ` <mailman.986.1510627800.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-11-14 20:11 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-14 22:13 ` G. Amanakis
[not found] ` <mailman.987.1510697602.3609.cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
2017-11-14 22:23 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-15 4:04 ` George Amanakis
2017-11-16 4:49 ` Dave Taht
2017-11-16 6:52 ` Jonathan Morton
[not found] ` <CACvFP_jGkByNCk=-n4NOxptw59nb8Bsup4Ymd+LbGi6O_WJr5Q@mail.gmail.com>
2017-11-16 17:08 ` [Cake] Fwd: " Georgios Amanakis
2017-11-16 23:12 ` [Cake] " Jonathan Morton
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2017-11-17 20:05 ` Pete Heist
2017-11-20 8:06 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-11-20 9:07 ` Pete Heist
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