From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com (wout3-smtp.messagingengine.com [64.147.123.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ADH-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 53A5A3B2A4 for ; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 18:17:32 -0500 (EST) Received: from compute1.internal (compute1.nyi.internal [10.202.2.41]) by mailout.west.internal (Postfix) with ESMTP id 043B33200A09; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 18:17:30 -0500 (EST) Received: from mailfrontend1 ([10.202.2.162]) by compute1.internal (MEProxy); Tue, 09 Jan 2024 18:17:31 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=lochnair.net; h= cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date:from:from:in-reply-to :in-reply-to:message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject :subject:to:to; s=fm1; t=1704842250; x=1704928650; bh=RaG+tRHny7 0sZx6DoR86bPzfZD4pUzKP0jLRcskIPSY=; b=P7yXbI2RR+s9cUC9viEcs1XHRg rCwYhhgufDR3sTuK/k5Iqjnce459BcMOC7f/k7anjzLRYTxlYZO7IXGiEndqVrBQ zPXf++cS2+UdiWVjyK6HehTC4eKiSHYsJch4mIDK8/MExToCB7h6DloEZgI8ouSl HVBxrdQypMj7z/dkiQG6seGOxDg2Ivonr1RRpognu0039XERD5SuviweKHnmDJmQ slgd7xDWscbVhcp4kVSDQcQVNa9vHItIsWI/8oXXdCrh2f0tkptS4KjVVbepSQzS DoYkkbOmffDnC9puezmZ8yrApzQUhkZNQuEhO8eUomk1xF/EjGwKp7cn0olA== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d= messagingengine.com; h=cc:cc:content-type:content-type:date:date :feedback-id:feedback-id:from:from:in-reply-to:in-reply-to :message-id:mime-version:references:reply-to:subject:subject:to :to:x-me-proxy:x-me-proxy:x-me-sender:x-me-sender:x-sasl-enc; s= fm2; t=1704842250; x=1704928650; bh=RaG+tRHny70sZx6DoR86bPzfZD4p UzKP0jLRcskIPSY=; b=FMr0NhHeJ9cZNzovRxtJqRisFkoH5yKkS8qfgzU81lnw kz5xGf6SpUADXZMLtb0kC6udyzUzrzO0Hr0EXonWSfDCBBl/8d7IVc1bhIgtx81Z 23jjFRsGt+OeJb5CVfGHfGc6k+6bFzxIN6dOTxU6EzdDx9n99glsAmorSPzHWVXE ejb3pQfRKN0BJYdYF89sPIULY3i1fa8l5wn+5JWLUOLxvQYJqccAlv3f9gCFkN82 GbmKlWECswS/Q8IKujriHeqewdQQzvLiT0EeAIZ/Pu3whsD97DTJClq8XrMgrSw3 B3AKhlZEFltWgxsTRpfyI0Bu46Hgd4Ku55xFRE9V2A== X-ME-Sender: X-ME-Received: X-ME-Proxy-Cause: gggruggvucftvghtrhhoucdtuddrgedvkedrvdeitddgtdekucetufdoteggodetrfdotf fvucfrrhhofhhilhgvmecuhfgrshhtofgrihhlpdfqfgfvpdfurfetoffkrfgpnffqhgen uceurghilhhouhhtmecufedttdenucesvcftvggtihhpihgvnhhtshculddquddttddmne cujfgurhephffktgggufffjgevvfhfofesrgdtmherhhdtjeenucfhrhhomheppfhilhhs ucetnhgurhgvrghsucfuvhgvvgcuoehmvgeslhhotghhnhgrihhrrdhnvghtqeenucggtf frrghtthgvrhhnpeetueelhfeileefjeefleevleekfeejjeefhfevffdtveeftefhvedu udegudegkeenucffohhmrghinhepmhhtihhnrdhnvghtpdgsuhhffhgvrhgslhhorghtrd hnvghtnecuvehluhhsthgvrhfuihiivgeptdenucfrrghrrghmpehmrghilhhfrhhomhep mhgvsehlohgthhhnrghirhdrnhgvth X-ME-Proxy: Feedback-ID: id883430e:Fastmail Received: by mail.messagingengine.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA; Tue, 9 Jan 2024 18:17:29 -0500 (EST) From: Nils Andreas Svee Message-Id: <9A37E764-ED81-4BC2-B351-AB6366090594@lochnair.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_FD8D78C1-CCF4-449A-9434-B80555CA4537" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3774.300.61.1.2\)) Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 00:17:16 +0100 In-Reply-To: Cc: Dave Taht , CAKE list To: dave seddon References: <65325791-A1D1-4E21-9F1D-D17737BCFF0F@lochnair.net> <867A6BD3-28C6-467A-977C-932DFB6B8E08@lochnair.net> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3774.300.61.1.2) Subject: Re: [Cake] Ubiquity (Unifi ) Smart Queues X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2024 23:17:32 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_FD8D78C1-CCF4-449A-9434-B80555CA4537 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I probably could, but it seems *a bit* more complex than I need more my = little home network? ;) Best Regards, Nils Andreas Svee > On Jan 9, 2024, at 18:07, dave seddon = wrote: >=20 > Nils - I guess you could run LibreQoS on N100? >=20 > On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 8:57=E2=80=AFAM Nils Andreas Svee via Cake = > wrote: >>> On Jan 9, 2024, at 17:05, Dave Taht > wrote: >>>=20 >>> On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at 10:40=E2=80=AFAM Nils Andreas Svee via Cake >>> > = wrote: >>>=20 >>>> Though frankly, I don=E2=80=99t plan on updating the sch_cake and = tc binaries when new firmwares are released anymore, as they don=E2=80=99t= publish the GPL archives on their webpage after the redesign, and they = don=E2=80=99t respond to requests for them either by the looks of the = forums. So if it breaks there=E2=80=99s not much I can do anymore. >>>=20 >>> This irks me enormously. It is the direct outcome of the cambium >>> elevate lawsuit, where both companies lost, the ISPs lost, open = source >>> practices long established about publishing sources, lost, and the >>> lawyers went on to other nasty things leaving this trail of awful >>> precedents in their wake. >>> https://www.mtin.net/blog/ubnt-vs-cambium/ >> Wow, hadn=E2=80=99t read about that. They even sued an ISP just for = using Cambium=E2=80=99s software on their hardware? >> That is crazy, just evil corporate lawyers doing their thing I guess. >>=20 >>> I do not know what to do about it. It also irks me that as a >>> contributor to "smart queues" they are not maintaining it well. >> It leaves something to be desired yes, and I would=E2=80=99ve hoped = to see CAKE included too of course, >> but even WireGuard is only available in the latest release candidates = with the redesigned web UI, so I=E2=80=99m not holding my breath. >>=20 >> I still have an EdgeRouter 4 that serves the family farm and one of = the 8-port switches under my desk, if only because I don=E2=80=99t wanna = spend money on replacing them, and they do serve their purpose. >>=20 >> I=E2=80=99ve since moved though, and now live in an area that has = FTTH, so I needed something beefier to handle CAKE on a 750/750 = subscription, because obviously there=E2=80=99s still bloat even on that = ;) >>=20 >> One of those Chinese boxes with a N100 in it and OpenWrt on top works = wonders :) >>=20 >> Best Regards, >> Nils Andreas Svee >> _______________________________________________ >> Cake mailing list >> Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net >> https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake >=20 >=20 > -- > Regards, > Dave Seddon > +1 415 857 5102 --Apple-Mail=_FD8D78C1-CCF4-449A-9434-B80555CA4537 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8
I = probably could, but it seems *a bit* more complex than I need more my = little home network? ;)

Best Regards,
Nils Andreas Svee

On Jan 9, 2024, at 18:07, dave = seddon <dave.seddon.ca@gmail.com> wrote:

Nils - I guess = you could run LibreQoS on N100?

On Tue, Jan = 9, 2024 at 8:57=E2=80=AFAM Nils Andreas Svee via Cake <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net&= gt; wrote:
On Jan 9, 2024, at 17:05, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Jan 9, 2024 at = 10:40=E2=80=AFAM Nils Andreas Svee via Cake
<cake@lists.bufferbloat.net> wrote:

Though frankly, I don=E2=80=99t plan on updating the = sch_cake and tc binaries when new firmwares are released anymore, as = they don=E2=80=99t publish the GPL archives on their webpage after the = redesign, and they don=E2=80=99t respond to requests for them either by = the looks of the forums. So if it breaks there=E2=80=99s not much I can = do anymore.

This irks me enormously. It is = the direct outcome of the cambium
elevate lawsuit, where both = companies lost, the ISPs lost, open source
practices long established = about publishing sources, lost, and the
lawyers went on to other nasty = things leaving this trail of awful
precedents  in their = wake.
Wow, hadn=E2=80=99t read about = that. They even sued an ISP just for using Cambium=E2=80=99s software on = their hardware?
That is crazy, just evil corporate lawyers = doing their thing I guess.

I do not know what to do about = it. It also irks me that as a
contributor to "smart queues" = they are not maintaining it well.
It = leaves something to be desired yes, and I would=E2=80=99ve hoped to see = CAKE included too of course,
but even WireGuard is only available in = the latest release candidates with the redesigned web UI, so I=E2=80=99m = not holding my breath.

I still have an = EdgeRouter 4 that serves the family farm and one of the 8-port switches = under my desk, if only because I don=E2=80=99t wanna spend money on = replacing them, and they do serve their = purpose.

I=E2=80=99ve since moved though, and = now live in an area that has FTTH, so I needed something beefier to = handle CAKE on a 750/750 subscription, because obviously there=E2=80=99s = still bloat even on that ;)

One of those = Chinese boxes with a N100 in it and OpenWrt on top works wonders = :)

Best Regards,
Nils Andreas = Svee
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