From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.21]) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 619E63B2AB for ; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 10:48:06 -0500 (EST) Received: from u-089-d091.biologie.uni-tuebingen.de ([134.2.89.91]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx103) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQzoI-1akfT23eG6-00UNsB; Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:48:02 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: moeller0 In-Reply-To: <452D0F47-931B-4412-AC59-C308388AA1E4@gmail.com> Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 16:48:01 +0100 Cc: Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant , cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <5693E8FA.4000803@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <56941191.1010601@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> <452D0F47-931B-4412-AC59-C308388AA1E4@gmail.com> To: Jonathan Morton X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:4IcSL9Tu8H8ZjDzdLzHdMmsLZX+gYFAm3qsA/PkMPJPtVSsBaYi DsJkiT8G3yp+sRB6aOinr9vcNhys5KQQk9pQiRxl9XNYMA31/YvlyKeiLIwzhHwrrSGLY5f bhUV5WZi67Z1MeQMO4/JlGa0CeK8VdqGDJdXyPcGopPCE7RA1W0IESKlK6O0/ulwE3i9kgD qAY/tuP7yzXT8ezFJTuog== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:vAK0m44w6cA=:QF87jBpL2eRC4RPV+s656S hNQR5y4enFKqvqHnGjmImq5hcJmzUYkeJ60iWFfyUJfvT+MO2/fX2RaH242KuadndP959TRHQ 9AGDHrTloHrF6xG+NSzeMy/dLWBEOavDU7l4HNoxYNrAFZ7UeLsGPyr0baJvlO1J7k6NCopys QniOGclSBb7IwwqQoVW4JZcXWurxJkCAujzRgTDpsgcBFDtTEEUh/IcLkNaYWek/Q+nr/l0Vq w9EWUJBv5eKs7P7zqQiCzesEFPnpnt0j28vXcepfm3GnP/fJa9bVHPT4rNaeej17jcQkYQU9o Hsqu/n835vR9w/TyQxLPkg2+j+GXNOLk+oB2Y+S15IQz/oyrbI1yWzfpqtFpySJeEBypGKwkf 3XhgPDX28Vbsc14SFjBpFkluc+E1aMSOjjZxWeFYMX4kvN8OF7Q71ENL4ZMVk8208/IhBMxZN OQvxEoq9nvGEM61vbduVhvFTz1RZuIXPRiJAbilddXwkbip4RlrahKMUSiYRXczo7zWzzZfa5 HdoWKW8UJqUjlsHqdjjJUmzM7OG0ISI05uUVw3Xb2BTcmwT3ZzBGetDnnP7q6QA+QxXwqz30B ai05xaV+2/dVG6Si+RWAX+5H+EdGCnlm2gdz5lXkgMNhHS8s+qq3J2fuLMeuM8My/a8dxZH+V bBCM68Bv3uSAr+iLMsssQzpzIqKJ5qbAqpc0Tn9Ta7ZzAQfmyWTksGsqSEKb6KTHR7bK2Wspz BJDEP6p/BI2Gbn/41JYYrEiD50k13nTtqRrTtlG2bjqPUjlxsrGhjJmRXPXoC8InFdyYTmZ+N N2WKVB7 Subject: Re: [Cake] triple flow isolation X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 14 Jan 2016 15:48:07 -0000 HI Jonathan, > On Jan 14, 2016, at 15:45 , Jonathan Morton = wrote: >=20 >=20 >> On 14 Jan, 2016, at 16:20, moeller0 wrote: >>=20 >> I am really curious how cake behaves in that setting... >=20 > I have identified a limitation in the current triple-isolation = implementation - in fact it only works properly if the sources *and* = destinations of the flows are independent. I=E2=80=99m working on a = fix, so that it also works when *either* are different. Ah, good to know, thanks. I am still curious about the non-NAT = fairness by internal IP addresses only performance, as far as I = understand that is the main request/use case people seem to have. We = have been offering basically per-flow fairness for some time now (and = that works mostly well), but it leaves people wishing for a tool to = restrict the pain under-controlled bit-torrenting can have on all users = of a given home network=E2=80=A6 >=20 > Turns out that a brand-new, state-of-the-art algorithm has some = subtleties to it. Who would have thought. :-) ;) Best Regards Sebastian >=20 > - Jonathan Morton >=20