From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D19403B29E for ; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 09:29:40 -0500 (EST) Received: from [192.168.250.101] ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx002 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0M5Lmp-1f7TYb377f-00za9O; Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:29:38 +0100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 10.3 \(3273\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 15:29:17 +0100 Cc: =?utf-8?Q?Dave_T=C3=A4ht?= , Cake List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: To: Bret Towe X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3273) X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:hQVGA/TanL3JYSkAAybrOgndNsOkOhQahZ+Hs5AYp40q4NDfKnC Zt0UqFEfM6s5t2H5+c8fCz3Jxm8be3lPdLh3uebfJ9Z7GtnUavuWKksfRbRs47kn8ZWwBAc K4APKaygN/cvDjacWPsc5snIZ/zeqeqnJR9hl4OwIE031zSITPBOhdk/8pwQWRiQ55uVagR TazrOMLmTybyZ9fhM6eOA== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:C2YTVL4Bayk=:nodtHqHPyVu57yCpCVoD/J EqY7bvA7cIfpTky3LPq4C4dHZYh3Hp0DaY1RNcy2CfiZoVXr8/ePv4lsveeO4rtIAvrzEjOBC pq3YMiNTAJ7DfaAhGnQ53+FTTRXkTrtE9/TOWVLsjXVz3ckPso/6s58Gixw01lK+9gCeUXwHK jaXodoc1OGwoGvsWctdVwMBNg6kpduyY4pGg9V8W99EtYCinlgtmwJvkxaw1ABgI7mh5/NDGm KCo123UVG/NBxn9reZew8gzS/i0/6u7wA0ERv8ZBVhoUOvAjKSspvVuCVflwaGzi0C6MVcrDe 5OoKU2oLPb31EvtTip4bJeZ0JJlqnCaYIIYiYj7hpQfLW6eKQsDcUQXITaEkuXOmWtEr5fgh+ KVVM+4mUPQUFRRwJUe3q5kFBBCCT9t64qykqnKLUQNKiW8V17vzbKtnSyGCE0Kn4yWafEA5x2 18VAGLz32xsYflF1OxN4u+0anrSj6KEJe4yOfu2ZF85DtyXeM/k9QZngx0u/9Ig6nGYLTU51i TA6YJbpwAaay96lsW3OwtIGyf/f1Jo4+A29pS0c2GANEV7moI1SK9RqnEv+59rtFmRv1GEVzM 5tOR+5+npj3ETZbHuVW0AMPJcsR+vQZRmjCjDEkuaBgNiMW+zDUGjzrCTYPjRFUJiw32VaUok nSkSL+is/yic9eaTK1Lr99RhpflupgazzcMe6x87bMDTDWa1R3i2Hjzvl44kdBk6Uu+VZs9FM 2PWBaJLAchGUl7Uocd42sebY8FX8z9BpLN0hoR3/9XaTct27QF6mjnUQZ6rj1gRlUlusJyEdv 8nmgCRTcRrNtyCo+QI14FdNXB+TrYgiYlM/pyCObEuxaMbtqbpDLDRycMqDgqVyYqQZiyUr Subject: Re: [Cake] ack filter rrul result at 1000/100 X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2017 14:29:41 -0000 > On Nov 16, 2017, at 14:55, Bret Towe wrote: >=20 > I have a docsis setup atm that is 300/7 300/7 =3D 42.9/1 This is extreme, I do not envy you at all. I would venture a guess that = your ISP would be a prime candidate for doing ACK filtering/thinning in = its CPE. Is there an easy way to compare sent versus received ACKs over = the internet? Best Regards >=20 >=20 > On Nov 15, 2017 8:28 PM, "Dave Taht" wrote: > This is a much saner test result[1], showing about a 20% improvement > under the rrul_be test. I scaled back the topology to two instances of > cake on the middlebox, shaping to 100mbits on one side and 10mbits on > the other, and flipped filtering on or off. The win will improve more > with upload/download ratios of ever worse than 10/1, and the rrul is > not exactly a test of real traffic. >=20 > What other ratios are out there, particularly in the dsl world? >=20 > I can think of a few ways to get more acks to filter out, for example, > not using the "sparse flow optimization" for acks. >=20 > [1] it also turned out my test target box, an odroid c2, couldn't push > more than 500mbits bidir in the first place. >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake >=20 > _______________________________________________ > Cake mailing list > Cake@lists.bufferbloat.net > https://lists.bufferbloat.net/listinfo/cake