Re: [Cake] flow isolation for ISPs

[Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com>]

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> On Apr 6, 2017, at 12:50 PM, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
> 
> Pete Heist <peteheist@gmail.com <mailto:peteheist@gmail.com>> writes:
> 
>> The fq_codel qdisc does have support for arbitrary tc filters to replace
>> the default hashing, BTW. If you don't need the cake shaper, that might
>> be a solution?
>> 
>> I see, I found mention of it in Chapter 6 of a draft RFC that it looks
>> like you wrote, actually
>> (https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-06#section-6). :)
>> To try it out, am I heading the right direction by looking at tc
>> filter’s skbedit action, or is that just for MQ devices?
>> (http://man7.org/linux/man-pages/man8/tc-skbedit.8.html)
>> 
>> I also saw this mention of “We are not aware of any deployments
>> utilising the custom classification feature"
>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-aqm-fq-codel-02#section-5.1.1,
>> so not sure how often this has been tried. :)
> 
> Yeah, haven't actually heard of anyone using the feature in production.
> It's basically this section from the 'classful qdiscs' section of 'man
> tc':
> 
>       When a packet enters a classful qdisc it can be classified to one of the classes within. Three criteria are available, although not all qdiscs will use all three:
> 
>       tc filters
>              If tc filters are attached to a class, they are consulted first for relevant instructions. Filters can match on all fields of a packet header, as well as on the firewall mark applied by ipchains or iptables.
> 
> So you can basically use the full capabilities of tc-filter in place of
> the built-in hashing of fq_codel. The tc-u32 man page has some examples,
> which is probably a good starting point.
> 
> If you do try this out and feel like writing up a small
> example/tutorial, I'm happy to add a link (or the whole thing) somewhere
> on bufferbloat.net <http://bufferbloat.net/> :)

Sure, if I get it working I’ll include an example in my paper, but I’m still a little confused. Is fq_codel actually a classful qdisc?

I get the part about matching with tc-filter and the u32 selector (as intuitive as that is :), but am not sure of the action the filter needs to take. However, I do see the example towards the bottom of the tc-u32 man page where a hash table is created and filters move packets into the right buckets. Perhaps it will be eventually decipherable from this… :)

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