From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lf1-x135.google.com (mail-lf1-x135.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::135]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5C3833B29E for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 03:31:53 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lf1-x135.google.com with SMTP id u14-v6so9985636lfu.0 for ; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 00:31:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=D5ZXm65H06ZF8LUC9hCosQwZkzTlr1qDpBfQjEX/wx0=; b=nRCrg/jpIRD5CU9n1++CmnCkMsD1yGE62BUyjBFWiKvF5cFVK7B138jODGfqCETIgj wCyTvUCbO38g9Bqx33egiubkz0HuLigkJ2uu7mc8d2umDSsQUtr/eGYn9MGohe0fRhM6 quvHniGFV0sNM9ZzA5bAAzMJdOyKep8C3F02F8myJV1eVdyDA8QCuB7p+MgQeVc4x4z3 qkFgBngSfPsQYZUuTLVvdWoZ7LrRyhQ28DBD9xeqfXUY1Hju809zcdqHkDW4KBoDT/1d 1ZMdvM0RfIq9s04xGy0jDORQmLH/yUGsuJtLT0KYWwl5+XpG5dNGHt1MB2kBQ0NXlnhk v08A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=D5ZXm65H06ZF8LUC9hCosQwZkzTlr1qDpBfQjEX/wx0=; b=Z5ZEEAr7UeBHNnMvnV4Wylgh73ANWi6Iqn9beci4dK6r5uidoIG7ugpwpEyCw1aE9C nIHlut5M204/oEAnB8GSUB5gUezCe3OlVnRb3lSr6I4Phx7Fu+5MnDuPfWqPciZaBxos E9Alc278o/Zy6TeAhzCXwC0YAYa5m3IJ2Zs6sCUF7zbvXHxVtFdMrUwjDtw2WygHfxqX THham9G+HV0B4ABmErpR4FWFhjeyyohk4nNGEbugh/7SFavNMVuC5+tqaYAVnVJvUfMd nk0BzEhwWpDFOyxERZxBt/4XhAvo8e85ODVMNMZTyebUP98A96ybU67qb2i/Qo3jxw+W Zosw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOUpUlF1mtwHN/5VBDFxhs4q8atDX5ox9XnxK971L0qF6ORUR4wV1qGv A859h9JEIeD00wM4w6SLqNw= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AAOMgpcVXfj5hQlcwKMhtkNG4Vhu+hhjGP/+DFx1/ot+ipB8iBFx3PhVAhkMuBat16fPNJxiaWeNFQ== X-Received: by 2002:a19:cc0f:: with SMTP id c15-v6mr11687328lfg.145.1533022312289; Tue, 31 Jul 2018 00:31:52 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.239.216] (83-245-234-71-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.234.71]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id f198-v6sm1848297lfg.86.2018.07.31.00.31.50 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Tue, 31 Jul 2018 00:31:51 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: <87h8kgz7u3.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 10:31:49 +0300 Cc: Pete Heist , Cake List Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: References: <1357421162.31089.1531812291583@webmail.strato.de> <1c323544b3076c0ab31b887d6113f25f572e41ae.camel@coverfire.com> <87woth28rw.fsf@toke.dk> <87tvol1z6h.fsf@toke.dk> <87wotfzql8.fsf@toke.dk> <87r2jlzwew.fsf@toke.dk> <305C8083-A170-42E8-BC96-120D3B0065EA@heistp.net> <8893BD36-72A4-4FC8-A013-BBB97F0E879B@gmx.de> <87muu9yovv.fsf@toke.dk> <0CDB71FA-7A51-48FC-A5E5-D91541DB7A57@heistp.net> <87k1pdyncs.fsf@toke.dk> <050BE1E9-5582-422B-B9C4-958EFEB4749D@heistp.net> <87h8kgz7u3.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Cake] =?utf-8?q?Using_cake_to_shape_1000=E2=80=99s_of_users=2E?= X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2018 07:31:53 -0000 Looks like even big ISPs could potentially benefit from this sort of thing: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3U-sSADYYY - Jonathan Morton