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From: Sebastian Moeller <moeller0@gmx.de>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: "Toke Høiland-Jørgensen" <toke@toke.dk>,
	"Cake List" <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] [PATCH] q_cake: Update xstats format to use per-tin structure
Date: Tue, 6 Mar 2018 13:10:34 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <A284C5E4-CE86-424D-820A-FDF71D98F252@gmx.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ED6ED0D5-4E41-46A2-A2C8-B6CA484496E4@gmail.com>

Hi Jonathan,



> On Mar 6, 2018, at 12:46, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> On 6 Mar, 2018, at 1:17 pm, Toke Høiland-Jørgensen <toke@toke.dk> wrote:
>> 
>>> So far it looks like everything is working fine and behaving as it
>>> should (on a plain Ethernet interface).  The one wrinkle is that it
>>> takes a few thousand packets for the avg_off value to converge on the
>>> true value, but that should easily be tolerable in most cases.
>> 
>> So, erm, what do the new stats mean? ;)
> 
> avg_off: the average observed offset of the transport header in packets.  This should converge to 14 on Ethernet.
> 
> max/min_tran: tracking the transport-layer size of packets; max_tran = max_len-avg_off if GSO is off.
> 
> max/min_adj: tracking the overhead-adjusted size of packets; these should be the adjusted sizes of the corresponding transport-layer sizes, so can be used to check the calculations.
> 
> It's probably feasible to lay these out better in the output, so they take up fewer lines on screen.

Great this matches what I deduced from the numbers. I note that by replacing a cake instance with itself (so not changing the configuration) will reset the counters.
Question: am I right to assume that the _adj values are what you pass in as the true packet size into cake's calculation?
I really like these outputs so far (running flent I saw:

qdisc cake 8003: dev eth0 root refcnt 6 unlimited diffserv3 triple-isolate rtt 100.0ms noatm overhead 34 mpu 64 
 Sent 269164303 bytes 611190 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 2) 
 backlog 0b 0p requeues 2 
 memory used: 10880b of 15140Kb
 capacity estimate: 0bit
                 Bulk   Best Effort      Voice
  thresh          0bit        0bit        0bit
  target         5.0ms       5.0ms       5.0ms
  interval     100.0ms     100.0ms     100.0ms
  pk_delay        14us        11us         8us
  av_delay         2us         2us         1us
  sp_delay         0us         0us         0us
  pkts           61400      395326      154464
  bytes       17617151   183250552    68296600
  way_inds           0           0           0
  way_miss           3          89          11
  way_cols           0           0           0
  drops              0           0           0
  marks              0           0           0
  ack_drop           0           0           0
  sp_flows           2          13           7
  bk_flows           0           0           0
  un_flows           0           0           0
  max_len         3012        3028        3012
  max_tran        1492
  max_adj         1526
  min_tran          28
  min_adj           64
  avg_off           14


Which is pretty much what I expected (speedtest ran over an effective MTU1492 PPPoE link*), but I still want to make more in-depth tests. Now we just need to carry this nto lede to get more testers. Plus it might make sense to merge tc-adv with iproute2-cake-next so that we have one master repository for the tc changes as well. I believe that before the xstats and Jonathan's recent updates iproute2-cake-next  was more up to date, but I am probably wrong...

Best Regards
	Sebastian

*) Interestingly takling stats later revealed:
qdisc cake 8003: dev eth0 root refcnt 6 unlimited diffserv3 triple-isolate rtt 100.0ms noatm overhead 34 mpu 64 
 Sent 743833445 bytes 1965042 pkt (dropped 0, overlimits 0 requeues 6) 
 backlog 0b 0p requeues 6 
 memory used: 16346b of 15140Kb
 capacity estimate: 0bit
                 Bulk   Best Effort      Voice
  thresh          0bit        0bit        0bit
  target         5.0ms       5.0ms       5.0ms
  interval     100.0ms     100.0ms     100.0ms
  pk_delay         8us        12us         9us
  av_delay         1us         3us         3us
  sp_delay         1us         1us         1us
  pkts          167869     1382188      414985
  bytes       49022886   511662935   183147624
  way_inds           0         341           0
  way_miss           6        1137          20
  way_cols           0           0           0
  drops              0           0           0
  marks              0           0           0
  ack_drop           0           0           0
  sp_flows           1           1           0
  bk_flows           0           0           1
  un_flows           0           0           0
  max_len         3012        3028        3012
  max_tran        1500
  max_adj         1534
  min_tran          28
  min_adj           64
  avg_off           14

Son between this sample and the speedtest the host exchanged MTU1500 packets with the local network...

> 
> - Jonathan Morton
> 


  reply	other threads:[~2018-03-06 12:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-26 15:08 [Cake] [PATCH] Split tin stats to its own structure to decrease size of tc_cake_xstats Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2017-12-26 16:28 ` Dave Taht
2017-12-26 16:32   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-01-27 13:05 ` [Cake] [PATCH v2] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-02-09 12:58   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-02-09 13:08     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-02-11 17:26   ` [Cake] [PATCH v3] " Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-02-11 17:26     ` [Cake] [PATCH] q_cake: Update xstats format to use per-tin structure Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-01 11:02       ` Jonathan Morton
2018-03-01 11:06         ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-03-01 13:59           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-05 23:08           ` Jonathan Morton
2018-03-06 11:17             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-06 11:46               ` Jonathan Morton
2018-03-06 12:10                 ` Sebastian Moeller [this message]
2018-03-06 13:08                   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-03-06 13:18                     ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-03-01 13:59         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-04 11:14           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-06 15:56       ` Stephen Hemminger
2018-03-06 18:33         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-06 21:06           ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-06 22:31             ` Jonathan Morton
2018-03-07  8:50               ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-07 10:08                 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-07 10:31                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-07 10:36                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-07 11:08                       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-07 11:28                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-07 11:59                           ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-07 12:59                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-07 14:21                               ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-03-07 14:30                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-07 15:25                                   ` Dave Taht
2018-03-07 15:52                                     ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-07 17:26                                       ` Dave Taht
2018-03-08 22:29                                         ` Pete Heist
2018-03-07 18:27                               ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-07 18:35                                 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-07 18:37                                 ` Jonathan Morton
2018-03-07 21:34                                 ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-08  0:49                                   ` Jonathan Morton
2018-03-08  7:59                                     ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-08  9:21                                       ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-08 10:32                                         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
     [not found]                                           ` <D8A90884-6DAE-42A6-A680-CD11599DDD97@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk>
2018-03-08 10:57                                             ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-08 11:09                                               ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-08 11:14                                                 ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-08 11:21                                                   ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-03-08 18:32                                                     ` Georgios Amanakis
2018-03-10 15:56                                                     ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-10 16:30                                                       ` Luis E. Garcia
2018-03-07 11:07                     ` Kevin Darbyshire-Bryant
2018-03-07 11:19                       ` Sebastian Moeller
2018-03-07 11:31                       ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen

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