From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-wr0-x22d.google.com (mail-wr0-x22d.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:400c:c0c::22d]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D5EA3B2A4 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 05:36:37 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-wr0-x22d.google.com with SMTP id c14-v6so8701045wrd.4 for ; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:36:36 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=eventide.io; s=google; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=0VX4iNOHBtXOvXoIOXIW9xLERtPkZz9Gh/nH7aj8fo8=; b=PDQ4vVjVLqRFGdHwjhA4iJKfLG6m3S2zPj7Bjo6gdz9bFArODrTbYCQJzUTG8nxH6p j2tA/OOmePbm2quqMh+XX7jmSf48MOLa9HKxt2YxRyrzj2W4LUQSIJHlocbyxuN9aPk6 xP0epnrzNuO9MuTHN+Y2WGJSPAteOFFDFGpnrk62PzdF6+iGsvkadJWmmD9IOPSI246m Mf8Uk3Mc5h60wf49uedPxtXm2Tw/58ROLkkAHv/bIkDAva396BQ9EK1ZZAKZUXhGgZgk 2jUZPmjYV8+HpWaFh+/9XdQH33NN+f3Ozkz1VUvGal/TIANmUz2YiNCH2+eFzUHadkKD rQJA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=0VX4iNOHBtXOvXoIOXIW9xLERtPkZz9Gh/nH7aj8fo8=; b=UZ9ryeZgpIkSAfAE77a0RgsIpjyLvJdBdvYd15n1vKffcyDWhYQ4V1PVdjIHSoy3bc IlJWS3PoD+5XmNfaWlknEGPK5bJ5MW01jzuCMaCoQ8aDho6EdwWD0I9L+COLWI5hhbtp 7bmlyN8dE4/1ooR4HzVT6DzEL+HO/BFA1guqXTNr8fYTY3U8YNC7GipK/d5TkhMQw7fN OW0GGTJeQ86wXRzCbfjjWFAipwI3jnHR8+6Gxgeh362VbmOys0lUzWJgopTC7A54A4yJ V1onOnFlKapW2fKy8tCK7SL91q9R+X5unzykPQqc+FsFmSY93JtQcpr0+9h5JmrDd2oj RRBA== X-Gm-Message-State: ALQs6tC9QzAL85gMeo1avG8GUE7+jDn9Vw54Bob29yz5eAyAKBBAjZeQ YEKf6rW3rxmda4kXIARgg7pyjA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: AIpwx4/iVyHDTOoPUbC4ohGd8Y48Bj6X6RcBLsJvwkTQWBnB93j8/DBP+Afjc/fkYU5BTD42VUUEaQ== X-Received: by 2002:adf:db0b:: with SMTP id s11-v6mr13124705wri.241.1524562596220; Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:36:36 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [10.72.0.64] (h-1169.lbcfree.net. [185.193.85.130]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id 109-v6sm11014560wra.32.2018.04.24.02.36.35 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Apr 2018 02:36:35 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 9.3 \(3124\)) From: Pete Heist In-Reply-To: <87fu3l7yp4.fsf@toke.dk> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 11:36:35 +0200 Cc: Cake List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <871sf6xqne.fsf@toke.dk> <0E96CBE1-B3B8-4E2A-BB09-1EEDD4E390BF@gmx.de> <87o9i97zyh.fsf@toke.dk> <87fu3l7yp4.fsf@toke.dk> To: =?utf-8?Q?Toke_H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen?= X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3124) Subject: Re: [Cake] Pre-print of Cake paper available X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2018 09:36:37 -0000 > On Apr 24, 2018, at 11:15 AM, Toke H=C3=B8iland-J=C3=B8rgensen = wrote: >=20 > Well, you could use it on an ISP backhaul by having a separate CAKE > instance per customer, and having another mechanism to assign customer > traffic to each. Yep, am aware of that possibility, and the setup fun that would entail. = :) > But yeah, having a single instance of CAKE solve all of your customer > shaping problems is probably not in scope currently... ;) That=E2=80=99s why in the end I think it=E2=80=99s good that the paper = makes it clear that the target is home gateways (it=E2=80=99s right in = the title). It was designed and implemented with that and mind, and if = it were advertised for another purpose without more work, the paper = might start to get that =E2=80=9Cit slices, it dices=E2=80=9D feel=E2=80=A6= :)=