From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B46753B29D for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 09:27:16 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.de; s=s31663417; t=1695907631; x=1696512431; i=moeller0@gmx.de; bh=wuqCgKvJF7iiSK4QMJZFa3dNwzjQkx6Wth77wEzAVwM=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Subject:From:In-Reply-To:Date:Cc:References:To; b=rCmJfZpB0KPjINutrQwpaED4vJdTbs8Vp9bzMEnU60CEYExK9Vgn6umnh3odXQs+fnwvcwVMF7l GZCqMvmrx+2H865OpE/30P0u62Un6ZQ+78spmz9cHR7OPUYLSOSEwZooeUu5wFjID+st6UxbsVrxi ibaukoRK4I1HcmW3iMiEd0wASkK5/DYH+hGmWcjRrp2OotrQsod9syLWT97uo67g0boFSulJ+p/9L 4+FG5Kx7IRLAT2eV1b46lzgH0NZ3hvBUJcxSfdBrs5t//hcJlf8Fuhrt2J1WXuZemfBFHl/17JDCz n/7PMQQlv2HE9ZBdQCCklF9/p90P9m4IOZdA== X-UI-Sender-Class: 724b4f7f-cbec-4199-ad4e-598c01a50d3a Received: from smtpclient.apple ([134.76.241.253]) by mail.gmx.net (mrgmx005 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1Mqs0R-1rPGKU0Q1B-00moV3; Thu, 28 Sep 2023 15:27:11 +0200 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 16.0 \(3696.120.41.1.4\)) From: Sebastian Moeller In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 15:27:09 +0200 Cc: Jonathan Morton , Cake List Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <1695068690.78066946@apps.rackspace.com> <6D098714-69DC-41D9-A7DC-E94FD9C77625@gmail.com> <79EC8CB2-0912-4D66-9FA3-990E9C38C281@gmail.com> To: David Lang X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3696.120.41.1.4) X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:lYvzwkYgVjVPEYR4J9rFJyBn39RjAV+m8wda/E2eW1u23ioN72+ tCqWProOWYlh2qQtdZGxTTzV9BjrgCyIqfzONWcI1KMJWHW2pj8MV10WS0+gagzW2bv0bC+ aA+PpPmHT2mrba20QapkRkGLGyLxUHxoCJ+fiF0OyuFwPrZTl9uWK3c7Cq+rX9t0PNsjbTJ xIo35HBRRUjXW/b6Gw9jw== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:nT/PSfWnxLw=;En7HUgVfJBAFDFQj1VmphbQC6B4 Lee1u4eClO0nLQoarK0zRQb+NLbAisEUap8EpL6X40Qx7Ji1FxUxjj0HKN/UtFzLwQhb9qo8Q VsvrbayknAh2qxZADQB8tm5g0IXl8R85Wc+VUAxib8qZZa+m44Ge0CWjLJIfcLZ8V+WPw7Aa6 G4o8ab7EAnfKJ8p5P1RudF6XpoA7UFVuiHZCitYbT3lGXWh2fBgIsQLikiq1YdwF43mdzPCZs Shsrkg+qGGE+zd07KQlrr02u0yEiFje+MAq2WZe7mQ7ms4tY1uFSFa+Mj/ghLYudZGdBJJ1XB E/bQIji8y9UaXrjNneoT6HEfHpKpK76H881X4YFYh9GWfwAm7NxPKl1hJArBkCijknP+eht80 QL4fvy7SVc8miTPKaJ5lvPGhO15Ve54nw4qPlOaw5yCy7cdxuQHVYBDaZyhFvVxKO6MEx7rDn lY/lOO0zef4dVBPpfgLCwCKl+PtT7k7idWheFD/TVpo0nVpUBV3pWLDd+MgYmJqg8Y9uKNUQ7 6rY+PNsCkkvF8wU8kXZ9+1gJhmD1GbdwxbFq/S2m7EPgIv9sv86N6AuDYgxDIyNMO4LHro7Zw HPeijZzgUJv3QWDcqlJ9L7gNd3MkIr48kmpYQirawVGKsYQADxxR1DMOKT48vL2kwvfPcKkuL MimvG/e2UmkOns0a8bx0XGG6c0EhI2GIqaDdk0Q3zSVGYLb46r/zeIdG/+JGFFqT4aiA7K5sL 7mrggQRKJrLAn06/gAHXIPWbV3GNz5p6W44pOSRypVSauhZBBPHLUwBnKKoiLaegRA3fUU/vI G0aWfSHAAGLD17C17pRyCDdRDW8FgQbnquQL7fBQFFqSQllkpfjhwUqFajqEOicY1ROO37z3W mFC1iIg0DnDKWaVwD9QUXRJSaYwkxSAbKKrNsOyS+IsKk8tuqne0UR5NNOJSI4Xk+2tgZlvrs p7OJCa27X88PNpZaXTTsTwWzYfM= Subject: Re: [Cake] some comprehensive arm64 w/cake results X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 13:27:17 -0000 > On Sep 28, 2023, at 15:19, David Lang wrote: >=20 > On Thu, 28 Sep 2023, Sebastian Moeller via Cake wrote: >=20 >> P.S.: I am tempted, but will likely wait until they are available in = quantity and hope that the street price comes down a bit before getting = one ;) >=20 > They aren't available at all yet, and it's not clear when they will be = available. The announcement was end of October, but I think I could = pre-order right now if I was feeling an urge. You are right though, = announced !=3D available or delivered. Regards Sebastian P.S.: I have a pi400 in use as "desktop" for my oldest kid, this is = close to be actually generally usable, I would guess that changing a = potential p500 from the pi400's 4GB to 8 GB together with the other = imprivements the 5 brings might push it over the threshold into the = truly useful category. Which probably means that either a potential = pi500 will come late and probably with only 4 GB, but let's see how this = works out now that the supply situation is less problematic. And I understand that there are other capable ARM based SoCs for = homerouter/desktop duty, I just happen ot have a soft spot for the = raspberry project ;) >=20 > David Lang