From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lb0-x233.google.com (mail-lb0-x233.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4010:c04::233]) (using TLSv1 with cipher RC4-SHA (128/128 bits)) (Client CN "smtp.gmail.com", Issuer "Google Internet Authority G2" (verified OK)) by huchra.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 59E4E21F1E5 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:31 -0700 (PDT) Received: by lbbwb3 with SMTP id wb3so27847592lbb.1 for ; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:29 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=content-type:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=jXqEpaF5nRe5SCe0Rx65/zTirpL+qTPuM9Q+OYLEKcI=; b=rdWHaKWJT3AEkAglhb8K0F5BQnLiVntMh335KOhOlaJUq8smzcfrD2gw942hCtOieJ O10mHMa65GWySD3sW1jNCWOi8P9Ac6d4g9WgCdxrZV5p0WKdIbkFDbOqsW8e4DOn/Q+5 75v55i68cUtC/DPSYBknh0gnxBL+0GDQ+phy5+Y7hcGm5icWw3cfaSslHFuVgWnPpePx xdqX2baEF1yvcvAY9KOLJAXsgj7p8Jn/tHdgoy8EYCImx1sM4DNXT+xSsT39uuUvkFSR pv9Wsor02ea16ZfYMmSJUY1zd0pJNRW1eg2Ft0HVFDVs9lnHbav1uc6EkPDnm8Fsg+r7 2W3A== X-Received: by 10.112.162.162 with SMTP id yb2mr3602977lbb.94.1445391089098; Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bass.home.chromatix.fi (176-93-46-50.bb.dnainternet.fi. [176.93.46.50]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id ql6sm951239lbb.0.2015.10.20.18.31.28 (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 20 Oct 2015 18:31:28 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2104\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 04:31:19 +0300 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <9717A3D5-6BF8-4454-A664-AAE4D276C942@gmx.de> <302F7EC4-80C4-42D3-AD9B-E555AD8FE4A5@gmx.de> <56267AB6.6080604@darbyshire-bryant.me.uk> To: Benjamin Cronce X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2104) Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Subject: Re: [Cake] Cake over satellite X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.13 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 21 Oct 2015 01:31:54 -0000 > On 21 Oct, 2015, at 04:26, Benjamin Cronce wrote: >=20 > Because planet very way too much and even a given planet will have a = wide range of much greater than one our RTTs. TCP probably won't even = work for those kids of RTTs. What about a Lunar RTT instead of = Interplanetary? The moon is about 1.3 light seconds away, one way. = That's a minimum of 2.6sec RTT. Nobody=E2=80=99s actually using TCP/IP on translunar distances either. = I put in =E2=80=9Cinterplanetary=E2=80=9D as a way to effectively = disable the AQM layer, leaving everything else intact. - Jonathan Morton