From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mail-lj1-x22e.google.com (mail-lj1-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22e]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36FC63B2A4 for ; Thu, 3 Oct 2019 15:04:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: by mail-lj1-x22e.google.com with SMTP id m7so3979241lji.2 for ; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 12:04:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=61g2uQ42wHR8SxExUrArTDbND4aqHuDMaGELZ2CkEuk=; b=AzLlOP1DxmLxZWyo0dLXOWdnXkWWGf9YO8Pxjgsxfge52pnDVX1Cm6d6n7/oGiZbDx NA1eQ1ra9jS9Si+Sp6q5v/niemJO1TnA0wMO12Q7Tvl/cT2yIbB1JG7wznDjECXXVMQC eaecBPId/H4kqcRByn1QsnKFy+kKRil/etoRIA22+1qaCzT5SY4E8WMqGkTr/bCyue0w 66zHC/qUP8uyJldTix689YK9gtuTaDLkD3ItvkEnYe54ProhcXPJUb+BQjaTsdO3vD/e fuLUeGiQR2wBOmxlt4m0k2A7YMK5Ul8rhGbM0mT+U/797jm57n9HSrdz4UamH6KdfXYP YM5Q== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:subject:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :content-transfer-encoding:message-id:references:to; bh=61g2uQ42wHR8SxExUrArTDbND4aqHuDMaGELZ2CkEuk=; b=GYIdpzyr1Q/TyLoz/okmQo9mnpmbgXV3kqa9XuyMXQoTXwKmztKgfGuWEGAuBaFUIg VwnMqTSfM7WXwkEIEfTdIlSsicVLHnIBB618dfBHsQbNwUktD/Vg6Hzq7dEEtx8/JY62 1AqHJGm+8zHFCjr0+4w0XkqZHH86ceyb6jw0iv+ekvl/TWrYbbZAMx4cQ0UN1BUzRSsn LkhKloRv0nymrBkLW0Owu5RpsvgjvTNW5XMtDOozTvKiufvOHGkWq3rEPryedapWd/tm B5HXv+Ed4KqMq/IDB5J9bP4EMoV2lShIVZ8M5HWHPYWeiXc5uZTSaziS7KZYRnXW9D7f l56g== X-Gm-Message-State: APjAAAVdR7tMpaEmBQKp7+FYfABGQHhJHPxsjxbtCjCZrmSqiHZZpg5W FCmJWAKC6mrtJiv19nwl2Hs= X-Google-Smtp-Source: APXvYqxPgBI46ayVfvF5ekX513pM7Jvkihzlyp6epp4M+O9rnSYfRIyW3D5QlKGw/QipaEEbTT8aCg== X-Received: by 2002:a2e:3a06:: with SMTP id h6mr7319051lja.128.1570129447785; Thu, 03 Oct 2019 12:04:07 -0700 (PDT) Received: from jonathartonsmbp.lan (83-245-233-7-nat-p.elisa-mobile.fi. [83.245.233.7]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id n3sm604705lfl.62.2019.10.03.12.04.06 (version=TLS1_2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Thu, 03 Oct 2019 12:04:06 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 11.5 \(3445.9.1\)) From: Jonathan Morton In-Reply-To: Date: Thu, 3 Oct 2019 22:04:04 +0300 Cc: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Message-Id: References: <2825CE14-2109-4580-A086-9701F4D3ADF0@gmail.com> <18b1c174-b88d-4664-9aa8-9c42925fc14c@www.fastmail.com> <9a90111b-2389-4dc6-8409-18c40f895540@www.fastmail.com> <43F02160-E691-4393-A0C0-8AB4AD962700@gmail.com> To: Justin Kilpatrick X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.3445.9.1) Subject: Re: [Cake] Fighting bloat in the face of uncertinty X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 03 Oct 2019 19:04:09 -0000 > On 3 Oct, 2019, at 8:52 pm, Justin Kilpatrick = wrote: >=20 > I've developed a rough version of this and put it into production = Monday. After a few tweaks we're seeing a ~10x reduction in the = magnitude of latency spikes at high usage times.=20 Sounds promising. Keep it up! - Jonathan Morton=