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From: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
To: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] lanman2018 cake talk ideas
Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2018 10:12:48 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <C953338C-E1C5-4207-AD64-9F0CE3FA83BA@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAA93jw5+TiKRS0yex2eJHkdhK1L4MwCYqs90Vo=umkjWgXPCfw@mail.gmail.com>

> On 23 Jun, 2018, at 8:35 am, Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> * really hate the cake_dst/src/triple isolate graph and wish we had a
> better way to express it. pie chart?

Pie chart is a good idea for that one.  Even better if it was a cake chart.

For the "evil" host, I recommend a gaming PC downloading an update through Wargaming's launchers (World of Tanks/Warships/Warplanes).  I believe they use libtorrent, but practically all of the bandwidth is supplied in practice by "web seeds", and the active flow count per downloading host is typically in the hundreds, each to a different IP address in WG's CDN.  At that level, end-to-end congestion control simply does not work without network assistance, which Cake happily provides.

Another local host could be running a videoconference session to two or three remote callers simultaneously, while a third simply downloads something with a single stream.

 - Jonathan Morton


  reply	other threads:[~2018-06-23  7:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 19+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2018-06-22  7:45 Felix Resch
2018-06-22  8:05 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-23  5:14   ` Dave Taht
2018-06-23  5:35     ` Dave Taht
2018-06-23  7:12       ` Jonathan Morton [this message]
2018-06-26  6:58     ` Dave Taht
2018-06-26  8:33       ` Pete Heist
2018-06-26 10:52         ` Toke Høiland-Jørgensen
2018-06-26 13:13           ` Dave Taht
2018-06-26  8:34       ` Sebastian Moeller
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2018-06-18 17:44 Dave Taht
2018-06-18 17:50 ` Loganaden Velvindron
2018-06-18 17:52 ` Loganaden Velvindron
2018-06-20  8:25 ` Luca Muscariello
2018-06-20 15:45 ` Pete Heist
2018-06-21  3:43   ` Dave Taht
2018-06-21  7:04     ` Pete Heist
2018-06-21  7:55       ` Jonas Mårtensson
2018-06-21  9:42     ` Sebastian Moeller

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