From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.19]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.bufferbloat.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6F42F3B260 for ; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 02:41:14 -0400 (EDT) Received: from [10.37.37.131] ([80.187.110.124]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MQ33z-1bvXmE0elH-005MEd; Thu, 27 Oct 2016 08:41:13 +0200 User-Agent: K-9 Mail for Android In-Reply-To: <0FA74BC3-33E0-4CF8-B134-B688EA0A4DBB@yahoo.com> References: <758C5432-757C-4CFA-BA20-48F6B6D32839@yahoo.com> <0FA74BC3-33E0-4CF8-B134-B688EA0A4DBB@yahoo.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----KGAN08A12G7GWL9GF0OU6HEFF0MHGL" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit From: Sebastian Moeller Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 08:41:12 +0200 To: "G. Amanakis" ,cake@lists.bufferbloat.net Message-ID: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:fZK0djCbUX1sQ977eJr19BYk2F1tRHAflWz1r9O7rtqhuHUp5fJ EE0FBhrdSSzEGQWSdBsTpPAw8CRVaUzr+GwOZnbpgEzPmd962Dtx2UsP/T9ObPG1K7kbNOb aJTjBQlOnC3S6V6XqHSjmL87EV+UKaPxTuoccKZuHowVxQaP5uhZ4qSCe+NmeaBVC0Bsmaj oRWTeEvbUmNvdWNwRbxqg== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ZJU8lzcaLo4=:u8D6VQcVGM1yZmfVsB6PyU FtDmO+OgA7KgadLcv6VZWofQoZB4Vm6w5OPmlA7d6pYzGh4qnq6XNgt3uVxFThHSjoGAthVAX WpKenNX8BzSuRO4IeDF45g1+5SN+0OgJeXrPxp1AngB++p8MZGVgibXxgLNN1JyXhBd9CbRmt z+wt+eVKN+K8PAprPxV4Y5A/t/swwiSGLM5uB40rbDHi+s8rcK7bAA88DkIBmMfg5LWwVGZo6 Nw3TFbVPPDHCt9OaffWTG+q+yYVFosFmY63ZJ3F+QdFfzEdsbt82RSNQxn0vU0/p9IQ3T8IcF 3rwxzD9kLfKmXjj8I4laq3+oTLctK3enrr2C+P7fsDu2ha13J0hjSqCBUG0NJjd0Nv8iERcyS 4g4snysBWO+pt0a7VGhAyTtY9RDuyatpEfKbtimKdHyZQz/1Ty0hQdZx76foOiZRrWFPSr1Lk O5XtRyvjxkYct/Uvhd74N4mLR934/NoyGy+F34swNbL0I5v8gKZUtLS7VLJuxsx44+/luEv+l E6Gjeb4EDMnDgx3oQwP4iparAHc8buQmlmhKc7jk1J7vHbu7EbEAmGoMxLmhzsyqBI8Obps8f KORFufgNfR2qPi3aCT7bA1mg/r0+p4se6gftHu8/iTZFaW1P5+SjdxKhAQYwBi7od6UH7oLTe MXCXPnqmOdhXcdIWGo9NluVP3OuXGgo7Hwj/YTAej97hCLHG1fpWi1uucn8lqTpRTkJYJrJDp L6bAXcSQSwNDEs63ZR62YhE7A7avtT2/MLJoIe1C3w78bMdQ3zZt7ULB9ShD57d6zOgcTVT/M AbZhqvrvkkSLAkKQXCDOQuh1jde9w== Subject: Re: [Cake] WAN ingress rate with concurrent downloads X-BeenThere: cake@lists.bufferbloat.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.20 Precedence: list List-Id: Cake - FQ_codel the next generation List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2016 06:41:14 -0000 ------KGAN08A12G7GWL9GF0OU6HEFF0MHGL Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could you set the ingress shaper to 50% of you true ingress rate and try ag= ain, please? Also could you post the results of 'tc -d qdisc' with your current setting= s and with the 50% settings (I will probably ask for more data=2E=2E=2E)? A= nd finally I believe you are on an ADSL link, what are the sync rates repor= ted by the modem, and which ISP are you with (I ask, as some ISPs actually = employ a shaper at their BRAS, so the modem sync rate might not be the actu= al bottleneck bandwidth)=2E That said, with wrong shaper settings I would r= ather expect increased latency under load, but not bandwidth violations=2E Best Regards Sebastian On October 27, 2016 2:16:06 AM GMT+02:00, "G=2E Amanakis" wrote: >I mean that the ingress limit on WAN (or egress limit on LAN) seems to >be ignored, and the rate bmon and bwm-ng report is the maximum >achievable=2E I=2Ee=2E on 450kbyte/s ingress with the limit set at >400kbyte/s, when bittorrent is in use bmon reports 450kbyte/s after >10-20 seconds=2E > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >_______________________________________________ >Cake mailing list >Cake@lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet >https://lists=2Ebufferbloat=2Enet/listinfo/cake ------KGAN08A12G7GWL9GF0OU6HEFF0MHGL Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could you set the ingress shaper to 50% of you tru= e ingress rate and try again, please?
Also could you post the results of 'tc -d qdisc' with your current= settings and with the 50% settings (I will probably ask for more data=2E= =2E=2E)? And finally I believe you are on an ADSL link, what are the sync r= ates reported by the modem, and which ISP are you with (I ask, as some ISPs= actually employ a shaper at their BRAS, so the modem sync rate might not b= e the actual bottleneck bandwidth)=2E That said, with wrong shaper settings= I would rather expect increased latency under load, but not bandwidth viol= ations=2E

Best Regards
Sebastian

On October 27, 2016 2:= 16:06 AM GMT+02:00, "G=2E Amanakis" <g_amanakis@yahoo=2Ecom>= ; wrote:
I mean that the ingress limit on WAN (or egress limit on LAN) seems to be = ignored, and the rate bmon and bwm-ng report is the maximum achievable=2E I= =2Ee=2E on 450kbyte/s ingress with the limit set at 400kbyte/s, when bittor= rent is in use bmon reports 450kbyte/s after 10-20 seconds=2E

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