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From: Dave Taht <dave.taht@gmail.com>
To: Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com>
Cc: Cake List <cake@lists.bufferbloat.net>
Subject: Re: [Cake] set filtered acks to bulk mode
Date: Tue, 5 Dec 2017 23:05:09 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CAA93jw45bzSb8EPj6Xvo=LB5abJ-f_4ove8Uhb1tq3N0m-oLmA@mail.gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CAJq5cE3+mP_dG3Y+UFQbidJDMxgPZEPULLYmTFQsNa+fBiwTxQ@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Dec 5, 2017 at 10:08 PM, Jonathan Morton <chromatix99@gmail.com> wrote:
> This is all sorts of wrong.

Going 1 out of 2 on untested patches for the day is not too horrible.

(sorry for crashing your router Ryan!!)

> First, setting the enum isn't sufficient to actually make the flow bulk.
> You need to move it to the bulk queue-of-queues and update the stats
> counters too.  That's probably why it's crashing for Ryan.

I had figured that would happen on the next round. :(

>
> Second, I fail to see why this is necessary or even desirable.  If there are
> enough acks to activate the filter, then I assume it should be treated as
> bulk already.  Or, if the filter itself thins out the acks enough to make it
> sparse, then it still makes sense to deliver those acks timely

Consider the case where you are emptying the queue on a regular basis.

As this is indeed, a bulk flow at this point, there is no need to give
it any extra boost.

>  so as to
> maximise the reduced information they carry.  Remember too that Codel
> implements head drop precisely to minimise the feedback lag via ack.
>
> - Jonathan Morton



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Dave Täht
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  reply	other threads:[~2017-12-06  7:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 5+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2017-12-05 22:00 Dave Taht
2017-12-06  4:59 ` Ryan Mounce
2017-12-06  6:08 ` Jonathan Morton
2017-12-06  7:05   ` Dave Taht [this message]
2017-12-06  8:10     ` Sebastian Moeller

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